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size=2>JoJo...
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You're missing the point... Most people have no issue with helping another
list member... But, some members abuse this help and consistent ask
questions that could be found in the manual without even attempting to find
it... The list member in question has consistently asked questions of this
nature for the last few MONTHS... Many times other list
members have given the answer and then pointed at the manual where the
information is found... Instead of looking at the manual before asking the
next question, the abuser will immediately ask another question... And
so on... And so on... And so on... After awhile, this gets
frustrating... Personally, I do not reply to this list member due to his
behavior... And I won't until he starts saying things like...
"I looked in this manual and read this part but I don't understand it" or
"What manual should I look in to get this answer"... I guess what I am
trying to say is that there is a history established with a list member
such as this that you are probably not aware of... People are frustrated
and it is showing...
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: JoJo Al-Zawawi
[mailto:jojo_at_jojo-zawawi.com]Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:41
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL)
No offense to
anybody, but I think this is rather arrogant. The list is for
anybody (unless the list owner decides it's just for experienced dba's). I am
brand new to Oracle, having just started learning it this week. I can
easily foresee having what some might consider stupid or RTFM questions,
and being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems deciphering
the manual. I myself am somewhat of a Word pro (and my vba code samples
page is the #1 ranked site of its kind on most major search engines) and I
help all kinds of newbies out on a Word list of which I am a member, as do all
the other members of the list. Everybody on that list is extremely
gracious and nobody complains -- and the people with questions get the help
they need, with nobody sitting back going "boy are you stupid / lazy". I
am hoping that I can get the same kind of help here, when I am ready for it,
that I and others give on other lists.
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<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: root_at_fatcity.com
[mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Craig MundaySent:
Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-LSubject: RTFM questions (formally RE:
PL/SQL)
The problem is that if you always ask the group for help, you
never learn where the information is within the manuals or other reference
documentation and the group also gets cluttered with trivia.
I agree with you that the list is here to help people and I
personally do not mind the odd naive question from a new DBA, but it is the
"...can't be bothered to look up the manual.." attitude that is most
frustrating. When you ask the format of a command (for example) to the
list, you are potentionally asking 1000's of people the same question who will
all have to spend the time to filter these questions - we are all busy people
and I personally do not want to use my time in this way. I'm sure you
can see that this is a much more expensive option than asking the person next
to you.
Cheers, <FONT
size=2>Craig.
-----Original Message----- From:
rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae [<A
href="mailto:rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae">mailto:rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 2:55 PM <FONT
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size=2>Subject: RE: PL/SQL
Why do you bother being on this List: The list is here to help
fellow DBA'S. Have you never said to one of your
collegues , what is the format of this command, or how
can I do that, when you simply cant be bothered to <FONT
size=2>look it up in the manual (either your busy or just down right
lazy): Sometimes this list is useful for just that. So
why dont u lighten up dude.
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