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RE: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion

From: <Jared.Still_at_radisys.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:27:08 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003F78D9.20020122110251@fatcity.com> 






Thank you.  :)



Jared







אדר יחיאל <adary_at_mehish.co.il>


Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com


01/22/02 05:30 AM


Please respond to ORACLE-L

 

        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
        cc: 
        Subject:        RE: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion






Hello All



I am new to this list (only a few weeks).
I subscribed to this list and another one at the same time.
This list is a source of knowledge and fun and the other is just business.
This one is so much better.



Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services


adary_at_mehish.co.il



> -----Original Message-----


> From:          Johnston, Tim [SMTP:TJohnston_at_quallaby.com]


> Sent:          Tue, January 22, 2002 12:31 AM


> To:            Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


> Subject:               OT: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion


> 


> My own 2 cents...  Stating a viewpoint such as this and then saying "do


> not


> reply to this" is just not acceptable...  This topic has been discussed 


on


> the list innumerable times over the years and it is always a hot bed of


> discussion...  And, it always seems to reach the same conclusion...  In


> summary, keep it on topic but the occasional OT post is tolerated...


> Anything more then that should not be done or moved to the OT list... 


So,


> here we are yet again...  And, here is MY opinion...  I view this list 


as


> a


> community...  Not just a technical list...  Many people on this list 


have


> been on for years and enjoy to occasionally have some fun...  I 


personally


> enjoy the occasional joke or OT thread...  It gives the list personality


> and


> allows me feel like I am getting to know the other people on the list...


> That is why I am on this list and not some of the other discussion


> forumsSome other forums operate as you desire...  I avoid those...  The


> reason is


> that I want to enjoy my job...  And the occasional laugh I get from this


> list has more then once made a miserable day better...  If I wanted to


> purely technical list I would go to another forum...  But I don't....  I


> like this list AS IS...  And, if I feel that I am getting to much email,


> the


> delete key works great...


> 


> Tim


> 


> 


> -----Original Message-----


> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:10 AM


> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


> 


> 


> Hello all,


> 


> My 2 cents' worth:


> 


> Far too much time is spent by a number of users in the Oracle List 


sending


> e-mail of no worth whatsoever. Half the msgs I read are what charitably


> might be called 'chat'. I understand that there is an off-line site for


> 'chat' - why not use it and stop mucking up the e-mail waves with crap.


> Even


> a small drop in aimless e-mails would be appreciated; 90%+ directed,


> professional queries and replies would be wonderful.


> 


> Please do not reply to this e-mail; this is my one-time attempt to bring


> about a positive change.


> 


> Thank you,


> 


> Paul Sherman


> DBA



> voice -  781-501-4143 (office)


> fax    -  781-278-8341 (office)


> email - psherman_at_elcom.com


> 


> 


> -----Original Message-----


> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:36 AM


> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


> 


> 


> Love is all you need.


> 


> --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:


> > or, of course, the answer to life, the universe and everything is?


> > 


> > --- Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com> wrote:


> > > 


> > > If the question is "Which episode of Star Trek was 'The Trouble


> > with


> > > Tribbles'", then yes.  ;)


> > > 


> > > Jared


> > > 


> > > On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:30, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:


> > > > Yep. And we also found logoff-triggers in 8i to be useful for the


> > > same


> > > > (and additional) purposes.


> > > >


> > > > But if I had to guess, I'm sure the answer would be 42 :-).


> > > >


> > > > Mogens


> > > >


> > > > Chaim.Katz_at_Completions.Bombardier.com wrote:


> > > > >Raj,


> > > > >Maybe another option would be to "audit session" for the


> > database.


> > >  For


> > > > >each logon/logoff you would see the  logical/physical reads and


> > > the


> > > > > logical writes ( in dba_audit_session) by Oracle username (or


> > > > > osusername). Chaim


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >"Aponte, Tony" <AponteT_at_hsn.net>@fatcity.com on 01/16/2002


> > > 06:15:24 PM


> > > > >


> > > > >Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com


> > > > >


> > > > >Sent by:    root_at_fatcity.com


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >To:    Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


> > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>


> > > > >cc:


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >Then  you're in luck.  I'd recommend starting with Oracle


> > Response


> > > Time


> > > > >Analysis from www.orapub.com.  Although  it won't give you


> > exactly


> > > what


> > > > > you need, it will help you get to the next  step.  Once you


> > > understand a


> > > > > session's response time components, it's a  short hop to


> > figuring


> > > out the


> > > > > V$SESSTAT statistics that make up the CPU time, 


> > physical/logical


> > > I/O


> > > > > operations and memory footprint.


> > > > >


> > > > >HTH



> > > > >Tony


> > > > >-----Original Message-----


> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 16,  2002 5:54 PM


> > > > >To: Aponte, Tony;  ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >Database Load ... is the main target at this time  ...


> > > > >


> > > > >Thanks Tony,


> > > > >


> > > > >Raj


> > > > >______________________________________________________


> > > > >


> > > > >Rajendra  Jamadagni               MIS, ESPN Inc.


> > > > >


> > > > >Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN  dot com


> > > > >


> > > > >Any opinion expressed here is  personal and doesn't reflect that


> > > of ESPN


> > > > >Inc.


> > > > >


> > > > >QOTD: Any clod can have facts,  but having an opinion is an 


> > art!


> > > > >-----Original Message-----


> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:53  PM


> > > > >To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com


> > > > >Cc:  Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >


> > > > >Raj, sorry for me being confused.  Are you trying to  measure


> > what


> > > the


> > > > >application executable is doing outside the database (i.e.. 


> > host


> > > system


> > > > >load) or the activity inside the database (i.e.. per 


> > > user/program/module


> > > > >DB stats)?


> > > > >


> > > > >Tony


> > > -- 


> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com


> > > -- 


> > > Author: Jared Still


> > >   INET: jkstill_at_cybcon.com


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