Re: OT: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion

On Monday 21 January 2002 19:35, Deshpande, Kirti wrote:
> >> ( list owner, baby sitter and part time DBA )
>
> Jared, What happened to that Perl thingy ??

Oh, I guess I felt that somes folks thought it pretentious, and others thought I was some kind of open source demon hacker from hell. ;)

Maybe I'll put it back, who cares what they think. :)

>
> Thank you so much for doing a wonderful job in keeping this list going....
> On your list, I have learnt more than I can offer others. Not only just
> Oracle things....
> I have made a few good friends, for life. Can't say the same about some
> other 'strict' list(s)..

Thanks Kirti, much appreciated.

Jared

>
> Regards,
>
> - Kirti
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 7:50 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Thanks Joe.
>
> A little OT has usually been acceptable here.
>
> Even some humor. The only time it became a problem
> is when it veered away from having anything to do with
> Oracle and oracle related work issues.
>
> People would start posting ethnic and off color jokes,
> ranting about their favorite pet peeve, ad nauseum.
>
> If you want to do that, go to the off topic list. They will
> welcome you with open arms. We won't even discuss
> how Ross and Eric may welcome you.
>
> Jared
> ( list owner, baby sitter and part time DBA )
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Testa <teci_at_the-testas.net>
> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> 01/21/02 05:10 PM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: OT: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion
>
>
> Tim, i'm with you, and since Paul does not evidently know who the list
> owner is here since he's making waves on the very few anymore OT posts
> that are here anymore and that the list owner was the one talking about
> tribbles.
>
> Paul, feel free to start your own list and manage it as you please.
>
> joe
>
> Johnston, Tim wrote:
> > My own 2 cents... Stating a viewpoint such as this and then saying "do
>
> not
>
> > reply to this" is just not acceptable... This topic has been discussed
>
> on
>
> > the list innumerable times over the years and it is always a hot bed of
> > discussion... And, it always seems to reach the same conclusion... In
> > summary, keep it on topic but the occasional OT post is tolerated...
> > Anything more then that should not be done or moved to the OT list...
>
> So,
>
> > here we are yet again... And, here is MY opinion... I view this list
>
> as a
>
> > community... Not just a technical list... Many people on this list
>
> have
>
> > been on for years and enjoy to occasionally have some fun... I
>
> personally
>
> > enjoy the occasional joke or OT thread... It gives the list personality
>
> and
>
> > allows me feel like I am getting to know the other people on the list...
> > That is why I am on this list and not some of the other discussion
>
> forums...
>
> > Some other forums operate as you desire... I avoid those... The reason
>
> is
>
> > that I want to enjoy my job... And the occasional laugh I get from this
> > list has more then once made a miserable day better... If I wanted to
> > purely technical list I would go to another forum... But I don't.... I
> > like this list AS IS... And, if I feel that I am getting to much email,
>
> the
>
> > delete key works great...
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:10 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > My 2 cents' worth:
> >
> > Far too much time is spent by a number of users in the Oracle List
>
> sending
>
> > e-mail of no worth whatsoever. Half the msgs I read are what charitably
> > might be called 'chat'. I understand that there is an off-line site for
> > 'chat' - why not use it and stop mucking up the e-mail waves with crap.
>
> Even
>
> > a small drop in aimless e-mails would be appreciated; 90%+ directed,
> > professional queries and replies would be wonderful.
> >
> > Please do not reply to this e-mail; this is my one-time attempt to bring
> > about a positive change.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Paul Sherman
> > DBA
> > voice - 781-501-4143 (office)
> > fax - 781-278-8341 (office)
> > email - psherman_at_elcom.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:36 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Love is all you need.
> >
> > --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>or, of course, the answer to life, the universe and everything is?
> >>
> >>--- Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com> wrote:
> >>>If the question is "Which episode of Star Trek was 'The Trouble
> >>
> >>with
> >>
> >>>Tribbles'", then yes. ;)
> >>>
> >>>Jared
> >>>
> >>>On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:30, Mogens Nxrgaard wrote:
> >>>>Yep. And we also found logoff-triggers in 8i to be useful for the
> >>>
> >>>same
> >>>
> >>>>(and additional) purposes.
> >>>>
> >>>>But if I had to guess, I'm sure the answer would be 42 :-).
> >>>>
> >>>>Mogens
> >>>>
> >>>>Chaim.Katz_at_Completions.Bombardier.com wrote:
> >>>>>Raj,
> >>>>>Maybe another option would be to "audit session" for the
> >>
> >>database.
> >>
> >>> For
> >>>
> >>>>>each logon/logoff you would see the logical/physical reads and
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>logical writes ( in dba_audit_session) by Oracle username (or
> >>>>>osusername). Chaim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Aponte, Tony" <AponteT_at_hsn.net>@fatcity.com on 01/16/2002
> >>>
> >>>06:15:24 PM
> >>>
> >>>>>Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>
> >><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >>
> >>>>>cc:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Then you're in luck. I'd recommend starting with Oracle
> >>
> >>Response
> >>
> >>>Time
> >>>
> >>>>>Analysis from www.orapub.com. Although it won't give you
> >>
> >>exactly
> >>
> >>>what
> >>>
> >>>>>you need, it will help you get to the next step. Once you
> >>>
> >>>understand a
> >>>
> >>>>>session's response time components, it's a short hop to
> >>
> >>figuring
> >>
> >>>out the
> >>>
> >>>>>V$SESSTAT statistics that make up the CPU time,
> >>
> >>physical/logical
> >>
> >>>I/O
> >>>
> >>>>>operations and memory footprint.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>HTH
> >>>>>Tony
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:54 PM
> >>>>>To: Aponte, Tony; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Database Load ... is the main target at this time ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks Tony,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Raj
> >>>>>______________________________________________________
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that
> >>>
> >>>of ESPN
> >>>
> >>>>>Inc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an
> >>
> >>art!
> >>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:53 PM
> >>>>>To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >>>>>Cc: Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Raj, sorry for me being confused. Are you trying to measure
> >>
> >>what
> >>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>>>application executable is doing outside the database (i.e..
> >>
> >>host
> >>
> >>>system
> >>>
> >>>>>load) or the activity inside the database (i.e.. per
> >>>
> >>>user/program/module
> >>>
> >>>>>DB stats)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Tony
> >>>
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