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RE: SPACE FREE HOW?

From: Aponte, Tony <AponteT_at_hsn.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:47:51 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003F451F.20020118130527@fatcity.com>

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I have
a question regarding LiveReorg's method that prevents modifications to the original table when it's time to switch to the newly reorged one.  AS the mechanism to prevent DML,  LiveReorg creates a temporary trigger on Insert, Update and Delete.  It simply raises a user-defined exception.  With our 24x7 Siebel environment executing massive insert and updates against the base tables, we expect that the application will receive this error when we switch to the new table.  The problem is that the application is not coded to handle the exception and the user will get an error displayed on the client.  This is preventing us from utilizing the Live feature of LiveReorg and is becoming as sore spot with our internal clients.  They expected uninterrupted maintenance and frankly, so did we.  Please correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm not using the tool correctly.
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Nick Wagner   [mailto:Nick.Wagner_at_quest.com]Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:51   PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:   SPACE FREE HOW?
  24x7... that does make it tough..  you might want to try   LiveReorg from Quest Software...  it allows you to reorganize those   tables while users are still accessing them.  It will even tell you which   tables to reorg to free up the most space... without even deleting data.    

  you can find out info about the products at   www.quest.com/livereorg
  you can even get a free trial version to test it out, and make   sure it is what you need.
  Nick
  -----Original Message----- From: Seema   Singh [<A
  href="mailto:oracledbam_at_hotmail.com">mailto:oracledbam_at_hotmail.com]   Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:41 AM <FONT   size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT   size=2>Subject: RE: SPACE FREE HOW?
  Ethan The database is in production
  and users are accesing 24x7.What will be best approach   to do? DO u have any scripts how to find HWM?   Thanks -Seema
>From: "Post, Ethan" <Ethan.Post_at_ps.net>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com <FONT
  size=2>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> >Subject: RE: SPACE   FREE HOW? >Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:25:37   -0800 > >Deleting
  records from a table does not free up space in the database. <FONT   size=2>>Search for high water mark in the concepts manual and you should   find an >explanation of how this works.  The   statement below only frees up space >above the high   water mark on the table. > <FONT
  size=2>>You can... > <FONT
  size=2>>create table foo nologging as (select * from big_table);
> >truncate table

  big_table; > >insert
  into big_table (select * from foo); >
>drop table foo; >
> >-Ethan <FONT

  size=2>> >-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:27 PM <FONT
  size=2>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT   size=2>> > >ALTER
  TABLE table DEALLOCATE UNUSED KEEP integer; >the   keep clause is optional. > <FONT
  size=2>>-sunil > <FONT
  size=2>>-----Original Message----- >Sent:   Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:58 PM >To: Multiple   recipients of list ORACLE-L > <FONT
  size=2>> >Hi >I
  deleted millions of rows from diffrent tables and I have not seen any
>impact on database size.What I have to do to get that
  free space? >Is it necessary to shutdown the   database? >Thx <FONT
  size=2>>-Seema > <FONT
  size=2>>-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L   FAQ: <A target=_blank

  href="http://www.orafaq.com">http://www.orafaq.com <FONT 
  size=2>>-- >Author: Post, Ethan <FONT 
  size=2>>   INET: Ethan.Post_at_ps.net <FONT 
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