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Re: The OCP bar is being raised

From: Ruth Gramolini <rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:08:00 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003ED27C.20020110135119@fatcity.com>

Should we parse you handle, O,rant, DBA. That's it! R ----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:03 AM

> Hi all,
>
> The oca exams are the same exams you would take on the way to being an
> OCP under the current program. The only difference is along the way you
> can get a designation of OCA. Not unlike Microsofts MCP.
>
> John
>
> Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com wrote:
>
> > From the website:
> >
> > --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all
> > required exams
> > --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.
> >
> >
> >
> > The way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get
> > the OCP. So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass
> > the OCA, you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you
> > cannot even take the OCM.
> >
> >
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SARKAR, Samir [mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:28 AM
> > To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
> > Cc: 'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'
> > Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> >
> >
> > Am not clear on this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5
> > exams....right ?? So, if we get the
> >
> > OCP Associate after passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another
> > 3 exams for getting OCP
> >
> > or do we have to go through all the 5 exams all over again ??
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we can directly sit for the OCP tests though instead of
> > going through the OCA. But to get the
> >
> > OCP Master, we will necessarily have to b a OCP.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do correct me if I am wrong though.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Samir
> >
> >
> >
> > Samir Sarkar
> > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
> > Schlumberger Sema
> > Email : samir.sarkar_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com
> > samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk
> > Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
> > EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217
> > Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]
> > Sent: 10 January 2002 15:05
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
> >
> > I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the requirements
> > for each. You can't just take the OCM exam. No we would
> > first have to get the OCA. Whether or not we need the entry
> > level cert we have to have it. Then, and only then, can we
> > take the OCP. Then and only then, can we take the OCM and
> > that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed.
> > So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to
> > spend money in a class that they could probably teach from
> > memory before they can get certification and that is after
> > getting 2 other certs that have no value to them. Call me a
> > cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab.
> >
> > From the website:
> >
> > --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams
required
> > -- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role.
> > Typically,
> > --two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the
> > Internet,
> > --while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored
> > environment. By
> > --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward
> > achieving the
> > -- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
> >
> >
> > --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass
> > all required exams
> > --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate
> > level.
> >
> >
> > --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an
> > Oracle
> > --Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM
> > credential
> > --requires attending two advanced level Oracle University
> > courses from
> > --the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM
> > Practicum exam.
> >
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [ mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com ]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: The OCP bar is being raised
> >
> >
> > Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time:
>




> > ---
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> > (OCP) Achievement
> >
> > A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services
> > quoted database
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> >
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> >
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http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.htm l
> >
> > for more information
> >
> > IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
> > crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001
>



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