RE: The OCP bar is being raised

Well, there are at least 6 - from
http://www.tusc.com/oracle/news/20011203a.html

"Niemiec joins Dr. Paul Dorsey, David Ensor, Peter Koletzke, Scott Nelson and Jeremiah Wilton in the first group of Oracle Certified Masters to be recognized by Oracle Corp"

-Joe

At 09:15 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:
>How many people outhere that you know do actually have
>OCM. Not ORACLE employees.
>
>Just curious...
>
>Regards,
>
>Viktor
>
>--- "Bowes, Chris" <Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com> wrote:
> > Maybe I am completely misreading this. However, I
> > didn't see the 8 to 9 OCP
> > upgrade and that is why I said, you'll have to take
> > them over again. If I
> > am completely out to lunch and this is just a re-org
> > of the Masters and OCP
> > and those 8 OCP can get OCM with 2 classes and a
> > test, then I apologize for
> > wasting your time and bandwidth, but from what I
> > read (and it was a quick
> > read) even if you are 8 OCP, you still have to have
> > the 9 OCA and OCP before
> > you can get the 9 OCM.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:41 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Of course, those of us who already have the OCP and
> > want to be called a
> > 'master'
> > just need to take the 2 required courses and then
> > the OCM exam.
> >
> > When looking at the details, they just split the
> > previous 5 exam OCP into
> > two tiers,
> > a 2 exam OCA, and a 2 exam OCP which has the OCA as
> > a prerequisite.
> >
> > The Oracle Master was always available, but without
> > a test -- it just
> > required taking ILT courses. They just added a
> > practicum exam to
> > make the OCM cert.
> >
> > I can see your point about this being a 'money
> > grab', but the only new item
> > here is the OCM practicum exam -- everything else
> > existed for 8 and 8i.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > At 07:05 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > >I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the
> > requirements for each. You
> > >can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first
> > have to get the
> > >OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert
> > we have to have
> > >it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP.
> > Then and only then, can we
> > >take the OCM and that is after we take these
> > REQUIRED classes from Oracle
> > >Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared
> > Still, has to spend
> > >money in a class that they could probably teach
> > from memory before they
> > >can get certification and that is after getting 2
> > other certs that have no
> > >value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is
> > nothing but a money
> > grab.
> > >
> > > From the website:
> > >
> > >--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the
> > exams required
> > >-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected
> > job role. Typically,
> > >--two exams are required; the first one can be
> > taken via the Internet,
> > >--while subsequent exams must be taken in a
> > proctored environment. By
> > >--completing your Oracle Associate, you are
> > half-way toward achieving the
> > >-- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
> > >
> > >--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you
> > must pass all required
> > >exams
> > >--in your selected job role, including those at the
> > Associate level.
> > >
> > >--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must
> > first be an Oracle
> > >--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving
> > your OCM credential
> > >--requires attending two advanced level Oracle
> > University courses from
> > >--the list shown on this page as well as passing
> > the OCM Practicum exam.
> > >
> > >--Chris
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> > [<mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com>mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >Subject: The OCP bar is being raised
> > >
> > >Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's
> > about time:
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----
> > >
> > >---
> > >Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified
> > Professional (OCP)
> > Achievement
> > >
> > >A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training
> > Services quoted database
> > >professionals and network engineers as the
> > fastest-growing areas of
> > >Professional
> > >Certification. And in an October survey from
> > *crn.com on Certification,
> > >58% of
> > >respondents said that it is very difficult to find
> > qualified Oracle
> > Certified
> > >Professionals-Database Administrators.
> > >
> > >To meet this demand, we have recently introduced
> > two new levels of
> > >professional
> > >achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to
> > Application and Java
> > >Developers
> > >worldwide):
> > >
> > >The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an
> > entry-level Oracle qualification
> > >requiring successful completion of two exams.
> > >The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced
> > qualification for Oracle
> > >Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires
> > students to take a practicum
> > >exam
> > >on-sitee at an Oracle University education center.
> > >Visit
> >
> ><http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.h>
>tml>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels
> > .html
> > >
> > >for more information
> > >
> > >IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
> > >crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct
> > 2001
> >
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