How many people outhere that you know do actually have
OCM. Not ORACLE employees.
Just curious...
Regards,
Viktor
- "Bowes, Chris" <Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com> wrote:
> Maybe I am completely misreading this. However, I
> didn't see the 8 to 9 OCP
> upgrade and that is why I said, you'll have to take
> them over again. If I
> am completely out to lunch and this is just a re-org
> of the Masters and OCP
> and those 8 OCP can get OCM with 2 classes and a
> test, then I apologize for
> wasting your time and bandwidth, but from what I
> read (and it was a quick
> read) even if you are 8 OCP, you still have to have
> the 9 OCA and OCP before
> you can get the 9 OCM.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Of course, those of us who already have the OCP and
> want to be called a
> 'master'
> just need to take the 2 required courses and then
> the OCM exam.
>
> When looking at the details, they just split the
> previous 5 exam OCP into
> two tiers,
> a 2 exam OCA, and a 2 exam OCP which has the OCA as
> a prerequisite.
>
> The Oracle Master was always available, but without
> a test -- it just
> required taking ILT courses. They just added a
> practicum exam to
> make the OCM cert.
>
> I can see your point about this being a 'money
> grab', but the only new item
> here is the OCM practicum exam -- everything else
> existed for 8 and 8i.
>
> -Joe
>
> At 07:05 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the
> requirements for each. You
> >can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first
> have to get the
> >OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert
> we have to have
> >it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP.
> Then and only then, can we
> >take the OCM and that is after we take these
> REQUIRED classes from Oracle
> >Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared
> Still, has to spend
> >money in a class that they could probably teach
> from memory before they
> >can get certification and that is after getting 2
> other certs that have no
> >value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is
> nothing but a money
> grab.
> >
> > From the website:
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the
> exams required
> >-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected
> job role. Typically,
> >--two exams are required; the first one can be
> taken via the Internet,
> >--while subsequent exams must be taken in a
> proctored environment. By
> >--completing your Oracle Associate, you are
> half-way toward achieving the
> >-- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you
> must pass all required
> >exams
> >--in your selected job role, including those at the
> Associate level.
> >
> >--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must
> first be an Oracle
> >--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving
> your OCM credential
> >--requires attending two advanced level Oracle
> University courses from
> >--the list shown on this page as well as passing
> the OCM Practicum exam.
> >
> >--Chris
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> [<mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com>mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >Subject: The OCP bar is being raised
> >
> >Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's
> about time:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >---
> >Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified
> Professional (OCP)
> Achievement
> >
> >A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training
> Services quoted database
> >professionals and network engineers as the
> fastest-growing areas of
> >Professional
> >Certification. And in an October survey from
> *crn.com on Certification,
> >58% of
> >respondents said that it is very difficult to find
> qualified Oracle
> Certified
> >Professionals-Database Administrators.
> >
> >To meet this demand, we have recently introduced
> two new levels of
> >professional
> >achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to
> Application and Java
> >Developers
> >worldwide):
> >
> >The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an
> entry-level Oracle qualification
> >requiring successful completion of two exams.
> >The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced
> qualification for Oracle
> >Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires
> students to take a practicum
> >exam
> >on-sitee at an Oracle University education center.
> >Visit
>
><http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.h
>
tml>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels
> .html
> >
> >for more information
> >
> >IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
> >crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct
> 2001
>
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