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RE: The OCP bar is being raised

From: Joe Raube <joe_at_fullmoondba.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:31:37 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003EC756.20020110080900@fatcity.com>

If you already have the 8i OCP, there is a single upgrade exam to become a 9i OCP.

I'm studying for it now.

-Joe

At 07:40 AM 1/10/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Hmmmm.......so all we have to do is appear for 2 exams and get OCA and
>then appear for the
>remaining 3 exams and upgrade ourselves to OCP.......or do we need to take
>all the 5 exams
>all over again ??
>
>Samir
>
>Samir Sarkar
>Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
>SchlumbergerSema
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> samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]
>Sent: 10 January 2002 15:35
>To: SARKAR, Samir; 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
>Cc: Bowes, Chris
>Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
>
> From the website:
>
>--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required
>exams
>--in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.
>
>The way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get the
>OCP. So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass the OCA,
>you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you cannot even take
>the OCM.
>
>--Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SARKAR, Samir [mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com]
>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:28 AM
>To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
>Cc: 'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'
>Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
>
>Chris,
>
>Am not clear on this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 exams....right ??
>So, if we get the
>OCP Associate after passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another 3 exams
>for getting OCP
>or do we have to go through all the 5 exams all over again ??
>
>I think we can directly sit for the OCP tests though instead of going
>through the OCA. But to get the
>OCP Master, we will necessarily have to b a OCP.
>
>Do correct me if I am wrong though.
>
>Regards,
>Samir
>
>Samir Sarkar
>Oracle DBA - Lennon Team
>SchlumbergerSema
>Email : samir.sarkar_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com
> samir.sarkar_at_sema.co.uk
>Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217
>EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217
>Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]
>Sent: 10 January 2002 15:05
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
>
>I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the requirements for each. You
>can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first have to get the
>OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert we have to have
>it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. Then and only then, can we
>take the OCM and that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle
>Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to spend
>money in a class that they could probably teach from memory before they
>can get certification and that is after getting 2 other certs that have no
>value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab.
> From the website:
>
>--To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams required
>-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role. Typically,
>--two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the Internet,
>--while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. By
>--completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward achieving the
>-- Oracle Certified Professional credential.
>--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required
>exams
>--in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.
>--To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an Oracle
>--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM credential
>--requires attending two advanced level Oracle University courses from
>--the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum exam.
>--Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com>mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
>Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: The OCP bar is being raised
>
>Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time:
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>---
>Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified Professional (OCP)
>Achievement
>
>A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services quoted database
>professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing areas of
>Professional
>Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com on Certification,
>58% of
>respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified Oracle
>Certified
>Professionals-Database Administrators.
>To meet this demand, we have recently introduced two new levels of
>professional
>achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to Application and Java
>Developers
>worldwide):
>The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level Oracle qualification
>requiring successful completion of two exams.
>The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification for Oracle
>Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take a practicum
>exam
>on-sitee at an Oracle University education center.
>Visit
><http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html>http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html
>
>
>for more information
>
>IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
>crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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