RE: The OCP bar is being raised

From: Ken Janusz <ken.janusz_at_sufsys.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:31:37 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003EC708.20020110080306@fatcity.com>

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Hmmm,

Imagine that, a publicly traded company that it trying to make money, I am shocked
dismayed, I don't believe I will be able to sleep tonight.

Chris, could you provide me with the list of companies that are not trying to make money?
I want to make sure that I don't go to work for them, or learn their products.

John :-)

Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com wrote:

I'd say the
cost is being raised. Look at the requirements for each. You can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first have to get the OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert we have to have it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. Then and only then, can we take the OCM and that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to spend money in a class that they could probably teach from memory before they can get certification and that is after getting 2 other certs that have no value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab.

From the
website:

--To become
an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams required
-- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role. Typically,
--two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the Internet,

--while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. By
--completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward achieving the
-- Oracle Certified Professional credential.

--To become
an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required exams 
--in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.

--To become
an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an Oracle 
--Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM credential
--requires attending two advanced level Oracle University courses from
--the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum exam.

--Chris

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From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<a
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
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Subject: The OCP bar is being raised

Anyone care
to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time:
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Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified Professional (OCP) Achievement

A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services quoted database
professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing areas of Professional
Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com on Certification, 58% of
respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified Oracle Certified
Professionals-Database Administrators.

To meet this
demand, we have recently introduced two new levels of professional
achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to Application and Java Developers
worldwide):

The Oracle
Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level Oracle qualification
requiring successful completion of two exams.
The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification for Oracle
Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take a practicum exam
on-sitee at an Oracle University education center. 
Visit
<a
href="http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html" target="_blank">http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html

for more information

IDC, IT
Education and Training, Sept 2001
crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001
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