You Can add my name also.
Venkat
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Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
>Gee, I thought I was the only one.
>
>Regards,
>Patrice Boivin
>Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
>Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
>Technology Services | Services technologiques
>Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
>Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
>
>E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:15 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: RE: RE: database administration questions
>
>or as Marlene, Jim and I not so jokingly ask in DBA 101 (if you can
>answer yes to most of these, you have what it takes to become an Oracle
>DBA):
>
>Are you able to function at top efficiency with little or no sleep -
>possibly for days at a time?
>
>Do you like getting phone calls in the middle of the night that aren't
>a wrong number?
>
>Do you enjoy being the "invisible" person in your organization, that
>is, until something goes wrong?
>
>Do you enjoy life under a microscope?
>
>Do you enjoy long lines of people outside your door?
>
>Do you enjoy spending time filling out electronic iTARs in the off
>chance that a human being will actually pick them up, read, and respond
>to them in a "timely manner?"
>
>Do you love solving puzzles that make no sense?
>
>Is your favorite weekend meal Twinkies and Coca-Cola, and do you view
>pizza as a seven-day-a-week healthy meal plan?
>
>Do you love being on a perpetual steep learning curve?
>
>Do you enjoy the challenge of moving between different computer
>platforms?
>
>Do you believe that you'll have enough time to teach yourself <fill in
>the blank> (possible choices: XML, 9i, PL/SQL, Built-in Packages, Java,
>etc.)?
>
>--- Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, once they find out this job isn't a cakewalk, they vanish.
>>
>> For those that:
>>
>> * live for challenge
>> * are afraid of nothing and not intimidated by complexity
>> * make that, 'love complexity' ;)
>> * can't forget about a problem until it's fixed
>> * willing to RTFM til they drop
>> * design and execute tests to understand how things work
>> * RTFM some more
>> * drive technology. Hey, there's more to a good DBA than databases.
>> * did I mention RTFM?
>> * learn from their mistakes
>> * admit they make mistakes
>> * RTFM to minimize mistakes
>>
>> All others need not apply.
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> "No guts, no glory" ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kimberly
>>
>> Smith" To: Multiple recipients
>> of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>> <ksmith2_at_myfirs cc:
>>
>> tlink.net> Subject: RE: RE:
>> database administration questions
>> Sent by:
>>
>> root_at_fatcity.co
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 12/27/01 09:00
>>
>> AM
>>
>> Please respond
>>
>> to ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You need to find some new cooks then.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:50 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>> In our shop we've tried the cross training tact. Problem was that
>> those
>> who
>> accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the
>> kitchen.
>> Damn!!!
>>
>> Dick Goulet
>>
>> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
>> Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <clchan_at_nie.edu.sg>
>> Date: 12/26/2001 4:50 PM
>>
>> I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle
>> programmer
>> but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss
>> whether
>> I
>> could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need
>> to
>> maintain my current systems. Now, I am a database
>> administrator-cum-programmer. I support turnkey projects, automate
>> processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain
>> database
>> & support Oracle Applications etc.
>>
>> Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots
>> of
>> interesting things in the process ....
>>
>> New Bees
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kimberly Smith
>> [mailto:ksmith2_at_MYFIRSTLINK.NET]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> Subject: RE: database administration questions
>>
>> If you work on a site like I do you could always
>> cross
>> train. I am always
>> looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup.
>> Right
>> now
>> I use one from
>> the Unix team and one from the development team. Its
>> the
>> only way I get to
>> take vacations and what no. Check with your current
>> DBA
>> and
>> see if they are
>> willing to train you while you are off doing your
>> 'real'
>> job. Of course,
>> there are some folks who are worried about job
>> security (or
>> are just
>> assholes)
>> and they would not give you the time of day. You
>> don't
>> want
>> to learn from
>> those folks anyway. The excuse, "I'm too busy" is
>> not
>> really valid either.
>> Training someone allowed me to offload some of my
>> work.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>> With your current background, your more likely to
>> land a
>> job
>> as a network
>> administrator LONG before you'll end up in a database
>> position. Access is
>> still
>> looked on as a single user system and frankly I
>> haven't run
>> into any large
>> scale
>> applications that use it, period. One of my current
>> tasks
>> is working with a
>> forecasting package that states in the manual that
>> Access
>> should only be
>> used
>> for the demos. Any other application of the package
>> should
>> use Oracle or
>> DB2.
>> Also a SPC (Statistical Process Control, for those
>> who
>> don't
>> know, don't ask
>> further) package we're evaluating (actually two of
>> them)
>> won't work with
>> Access
>> even for the demos. Therefore, I'd suggest staying
>> with
>> the
>> networking
>> world.
>> It will be around as long as database administration,
>> if
>> not
>> longer. Your
>> already trained and certified, and getting a Cisco
>> certification is no small
>> feat. If you really want to move into database
>> admin, your
>> probably looking
>> at
>> 2 to 3 years of learning and smaller paychecks as you
>> pay
>> your dues.
>>
>> BTW: A database restore usually takes a lot longer
>> than
>> fixing a network
>> outage,
>> to boot.
>>
>> Dick Goulet
>>
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