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RE: XP Professional & 9i

From: Ron Rogers <RROGERS_at_galottery.org>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:15:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003E46DD.20011231054517@fatcity.com>

Ken.
 I work for a quasi state gov't organization ( state lottery) and we are covered under the state contract with Oracle for support. I think that with some creative investigating you can uncover the CSI number that exists in the state organization and use it to get access to Metelink. That is in fact if the organization is "legal" with the software it is using. ROR mª¿ªm>>> ken.janusz_at_sufsys.com 12/31/01 07:05AM >>>

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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">I work for a very small company that does DB/application conversions for state governments.  They will not spend
the money for Metalink.  I am the
only Oracle person in the company. 
So, my only source of Oracle information is documentation and the e-mail lists.  I have found that a lot of
times the specific information I need is not in the documentation so the e-mail lists are my last resort.  I am very
happy that these lists exist and all the help everyone has given me.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----From: Hallas John
[mailto:John.Hallas_at_btcellnet.net]<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 3:00 AMTo: Multiple recipients of
list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: XP
Professional & 9i
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size=2>I think it is our problem
actually because the majority of questions you ask could be answered quite easily by looking at the manual or using Metalink.<FONT color=black><SPAN
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size=2>Is your company just a one or
2 man band or is it a reasonably sized company. If so I would have thought that having Oracle support was a  necessity rather than a nice to have.<SPAN
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size=2>I once turned down a contract
at a company because they did not have 24 hour support and I was expected to do out of hours support for which any call was made would be charged for. I and I am sure many others have got into a situation where we are on our own/tired/stuck/confused whatever and a call to support has been very helpful, not just for the answer but more as someone to talk to, ensure that you are not about to do anyuhing stupid (too late for me :-)). <FONT color=black><SPAN
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size=2>Knowadays there is a lot more
on-line resource available and this list is getting better all the time but I personally think Metalink is invaluable both for resolving immediate problems and digging deeper into areas of interest.<SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext">
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">From: Ken Janusz [<A href="mailto:ken.janusz_at_sufsys.com">mailto:ken.janusz_at_sufsys.com]<FONT color=black> <FONT color=black
size=2>Sent: 29 December 2001
17:55
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Subject: RE: XP Professional & 9i
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because my company won't pay for it.  It's their<FONT color=black> <FONT color=black
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mine.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Sent:   Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:15 AM
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Subject:        Re: XP Professional & 9i<SPAN
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size=2>That brings rise to the
question "Why aren't you<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">a member of MetaStink?"<FONT 
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<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black
size=2>Have you purchased Oracle
Support?  If so, you likely<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">have access to MetaLink.  If not, you need to.
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successfully implement an Oracle<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">based application on 9i without support.  You at least need<SPAN
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<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black
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06:25, Ken Janusz wrote:<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> We are not a member of metastink.  I looked at OTN an it's only certified<FONT color=black> <FONT color=black
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was wondering if anyone knew if it is cert. for XP<FONT color=black> <FONT color=black
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be?
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 7:50 AM
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> Subject:      Re: XP Professional &
9i
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> Ken, go to metalstink and look for 
the certification matrix.<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> joe<FONT 
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wrote:
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home PC at this time.
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Thanks,
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> > Ken Janusz, CPIM
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> > Database Conversion Lead
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> > Sufficient Systems, Inc.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> > Minneapolis, MN
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