yeah I think he went from "you won't need a DBA" to "you will need lots
of DBAs to manage all the different specialized features" :)
- "Karniotis, Stephen" <Stephen_Karniotis_at_compuware.com> wrote:
> True:
>
> If you listened carefully to Larry at OOW, he backed off that
> statement,
> saying that the DBA is necessary to make sure that all of the
> Oracle9i
> features are implemented properly.
>
> Thank You
>
> Stephen P. Karniotis
> Technical Alliance Manager
> Compuware Corporation
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:15 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: IMPORT TIME IS HIGH
>
> and svrmgr was going in 8i too... took them until 9i
>
> oh, and of course, my personal favorite (this has been said since 7)
> "you won't need a DBA anymore"
>
>
> --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <Stephen_Karniotis_at_compuware.com> wrote:
> > Everyone needs to remember that the Oracle Import Utility is just a
> > 3GL "C"
> > program with INSERT statements. It is widely publicized that the
> > ratio is
> > 1:4 so this should not come as a surprise to anyone. Some ways to
> > improve
> > performance is to use a large buffer size (10-20M) and set COMMIT=Y
> > to
> > facilitate array inserts. There are OS options for improving the
> I/O
> > bandwidth on the file, but that's really it.
> >
> > Rachel is correct. She did not want to frighten anyone. Now the
> > good news
> > is with Oracle9i, Oracle has added Array Inserts to the tool so
> this
> > may
> > help. How many of us remember when Oracle claimed that EXP/IMP
> were
> > to go
> > away in 8i????
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > Stephen P. Karniotis
> > Technical Alliance Manager
> > Compuware Corporation
> > Direct: (248) 865-4350
> > Mobile: (248) 408-2918
> > Email: Stephen.Karniotis_at_Compuware.com
> > Web: www.compuware.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:25 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: IMPORT TIME IS HIGH
> >
> > well, yeah, depending on the number of indexes, I've seen a 6 hour
> > export take almost 24 hours to import -- on the same box as the
> > export
> > was done.
> >
> > I was trying not to frighten anyone :)
> >
> >
> > --- Stephane Faroult <sfaroult_at_oriole.com> wrote:
> > > Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> > > >
> > > > in addition, define what you mean by "much time" -- how much
> data
> > > are
> > > > you loading? how slow is the load actually? I've found that in
> > > > general, an import takes about twice as long as the export.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Rachel, I don't know it's because of the festive season but I
> find
> > > you
> > > optimistic. I'd rather say 3 or 4 times as long as a conventional
> > > export.
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