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I seem to remember Ralph Kimball writing in one of his DW books that the RI and constraints should be enforced in the app layer as well. However I might be wrong (once this year isn't too bad, eh?) ;-P
Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
Henry Poras wrote:
>
> That is probably true to an extent but it doesn't explain some of the messes
> I've seen.
>
> Henry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:14 PM
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>
> I have heard that they do this on purpose because their products have to be
> RDBMS neutral. They have to work on RDBMS's that don't have built-in RI.
>
> Tom Terrian
> Oracle DBA
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:46 PM
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> Does anybody else get the same feeling as me that it is not that vendors are
> ignoring proper data models, they don't even know what they are.
>
> Henry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Unfortunately it's the case way too often. Even at the enlightened place
> where I work, our RI is done at the application level.
>
> Not much I can do about it. Our development is done on MySQL and then
> "ported" to Oracle.
>
> --Walt Weaver
> Bozeman, Montana, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:55 AM
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>
> <RANT MODE>
>
> BAH!! These bloody application providers leaving the integrity to their
> bloody applications instead of leaving it in it's rightful place in the
> database!!! Makes my life 10 times harder!!! Got no consideration at all
> have they?
>
> </RANT MODE>
>
> :P
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Linda.Miller-Coker_at_jpmorgan.com
> Sent: 28 November 2001 17:46
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>
> We use Siebel and no it does NOT have RI.
>
> "Mark Leith" <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>@fatcity.com on 11/28/2001 10:56:07 AM
>
> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
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> Hi Gang,
>
> Does anybody use Siebel - I believe it's a CRM package?
>
> I'm trying to find out of the Siebel application enforces RI within the
> database or the application? Anybody know?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
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