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John,
What has changed? I think we have both
versions floating around here somewhere (unless one of the books left with some
of our people). I'll try to take a stroll through the Table of
Contents.
Henry
<FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----From: Hallas John
[mailto:John.Hallas_at_btcellnet.net]Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001
5:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:
RE: SQL query tuning problem
I have the first edition which is an
excellent book but I cannot justify buying the later version - pity
really
-----Original
Message-----From: SARKAR, Samir
[mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com]Sent: 16 November
2001 15:50To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: SQL query tuning
problem
Well Greg......I just
ordered the SQL Tuning book by Guy Harrison from
Amazon....
hope it is real good as u
recommend :)
Thanks and Cheers
!!
Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon
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<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Greg Moore
[mailto:sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net]Sent: 08 November 2001
18:28To: SARKAR, SamirSubject: Re: SQL query tuning
problem
>> syntax for having multiple tables in the hint
/*+ full( a b ) */
Look in the Oracle documentation, in the Tuning Guide. There is
a complete chapter on Hints.
If you are interested in tuning, get Guy Harrison's book. It's
available on Amazon. It's one of the best Oracle books ever
written.
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<A href="mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com"
title=Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com>SARKAR, Samir
To: <A
href="mailto:sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net" title=sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net>'Greg
Moore'
Cc: <A
href="mailto:'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'"
title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001
2:04 AM
Subject: RE: SQL query tuning
problem
<FONT
size=3>Greg,
Thanks a bunch for ur
detailed reply. I am trying out all the options enumerated by you and
I will hopefully get
some results.
I was doing a mistake
with the hint to disable indexes.....I was using the table name instead
of the
alias in the hint.
Could u please tell me
the syntax for having multiple tables in the hint ?? Tahat is, if I want
the query to run by
disabling the indexes in all the joined tables, what would the syntax be
??
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size=3>
Thanks
again,
Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon
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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Greg Moore
[mailto:sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net]Sent: 07 November 2001
20:09To: SARKAR, SamirSubject: Re: SQL query
tuning problem
Samir,
To disable an index, use the hint FULL in the SQL.
select /*+ full(e) */ ename, phone, address
from emp e
where ename = 'Smith'
This will cause a full table scan on the emp table (instead of
using an index). Note you must give the table an alias in the
FROM clause, and you must use that alias in the hint. Also, the
hint must have no errors. If it contains errors you won't get an
error message. So after putting in a hint, be sure to run an
explain plan to see if your hint worked. For the FULL hint,
obviously, your explain plan should show a full table scan and should
not show use of an index.
The explain plan you sent is very interesting. The words
"MERGE JOIN (CARTESIAN)" are very interesting. Normally a
Cartesian join is a mistake, because the programmer forgot to include
a join between two tables in the WHERE clause. In your case,
however, the tables appear to be all properly joined.
Oracle enhanced the optimizer for data warehouses, where there is
usually one big table an many smaller ones. The smaller tables
can't be joined to each other, only to the large table. However,
the most efficient solution is for Oracle to first join all the small
tables, and since they can't be linked with primary and foreign keys,
Oracle just does a Cartesian join. This produces lots of
results, but not too many because the tables are all small.
Then, for the last step, Oracle finally joins the results from these
small tables to the big table.
The idea is to put off dealing with the big table until the end,
and then only deal with it once. This is faster than joining
each small table to the big table, one at a time.
Although this was meant for data warehouses, sometimes Oracle
will create a plan like this simply because it sees that one table is
very big and the others are small. I think that is what is
happening with your SQL and explain plan.
I am sorry to report that even with the proper indentation, I
cannot fully understand your explain plan. It is simply
different from what I am used to seeing and I don't understand how a
couple of the steps work together.
I can, however, offer some ideas for things to try:
(1) Use timed_statistics=true and then run a trace and
TKPROF. Then look in the TKPROF report at the very left of the
explain plan. There is a column that says ROWS. Right now
it contains all zero's! This column has very useful information
-- it tells how many rows were processed by each step in the
plan. Often you can use this information to isolate the step
where things are going wrong because you see too many rows being
processed. Often this is an indication that an index needs to
have a column added, or some other change needs to be made. At
least you see where lots of work is being done, so you can focus your
efforts on that step.
(2) It will be interesting to try your idea of using the
FULL hint instead of indexes. I hope you are able to turn on
timed_statistics, if only for your session, so you can see complete
TKPROF reports when you try various hints, so you can see all the
things that change.
(3) The major thing that jumps out at me is the last line
of the explain plan, where there is a full table scan on
valid_pricing_unit. I'm reasonably sure that this step is the
inner part of the nested loops step that appears near the top of the
plan. This means that Oracle is looping through the
valid_pricing_unit table again and again, and each time it's a full
table scan! If you had timed_statistics=true then you could see
if this is causing trouble, because each full scan means all the rows
are processed, so if you are looping through that table thousands of
times, the ROWS column would show a very large number. But even
without that information, this seems suspicious, unless the table is
very small. Is there an index on this table? What
columns? Is it on the columns used in your WHERE clause?
Does it also include any columns from this table in the SELECT
list? If it includes all the columns in the SQL, Oracle can use
the index alone and not use the table, and this might be the best
solution of all, unless this table is very small.
That's all from me. Have fun!
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title=Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com>SARKAR, Samir
To: <A
href="mailto:sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net" title=sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net>'Greg
Moore'
Cc: <A
href="mailto:'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'"
title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
Sent: Wednesday, November 07,
2001 3:40 AM
Subject: RE: SQL query tuning
problem
Hi
Greg,
<FONT
size=3>
Thanks for
replying.......I have reformatted the Explain Plan statement which
is
appended below
:
<FONT
size=3>
<FONT
size=3>
<FONT
face=Courier size=2>Rows Execution
Plan
<FONT
size=3>----------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<SPAN
class=497161811-07112001><FONT
size=2><SPAN
class=497161811-07112001> 0
INSERT STATEMENT GOAL:
CHOOSE
<FONT
size=3> <FONT
face=Courier
size=2>0 <FONT
face=Courier size=2>FILTER
<FONT
face=Courier> 0
SORT ( GROUP BY )
<FONT
face=Courier> 0
NESTED LOOPS<SPAN
class=497161811-07112001>
<SPAN
class=497161811-07112001> 0
MERGE JOIN
(CARTESIAN)
<FONT
face=Courier> 0 <FONT
face=Courier><SPAN
class=497161811-07112001> &
nbsp; TABLE ACCESS GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID)
OF
<FONT
face=Courier>
<FONT
face=Courier> '<FONT
face=Courier>VALID_SEGMENT’
<FONT
face=Courier> 0
<FONT
face=Courier>INDEX (RANGE
SCAN) OF ‘IX_VALID_SEGMENT’ (UNIQUE)
<FONT
face=Courier>
0
SORT
(JOIN)
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
0
TABLE ACCESS GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID)
OF
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT face=Arial
size=3> <FONT face=Courier
size=2>
‘VALID_PRICING_UNIT’
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
0
INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF ‘IX_VALID_PR_UNIT’
(UNIQUE)
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
0
INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF ‘IX_VALID_TRANS’
(UNIQUE)
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
0
SORT (AGGREGATE)
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
0
TABLE ACCESS GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
‘VALID_PRICING_UNIT’
<FONT
face=Courier><FONT
face=Courier>
<FONT
face=Courier>Also, if I
want to disable the indexes on this query, could u please tell me
how do I provide a hint here ??
Sorry to ask this but
I am not very conversant with Application Query
Tuning.
<FONT
face=Courier>Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA -
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<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Greg
Moore [mailto:sqlgreg_at_pacbell.net]Sent: 06 November
2001 20:42To: SARKAR, SamirSubject: SQL
query tuning problem
Samir,
(1) The TKPROF report is incomplete because your
init.ora parameter TIMED_STATISTICS is not set to true. This
is why your report shows elapsed time = 0, etc.
Issue
alter system set timed_statistics=true
This allows you to use TKPROF and see the complete TKPROF
report. If you don't do this the TKPROF reports don't show
much useful information, so you might as well just be using
explain plan.
(2) Your explain plan is difficult to read because in
your email the indentation is messed up. Can you run an
explain plan on this statement and then send it using a font
in your email that will preserve the spacing, such as courier
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