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Re: Another Oracle DBA gets "The Bullet" WAS: Help!: Job Descrip

From: Scott Shafer <sknd100_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:59:36 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003C7005.20011115210522@fatcity.com>

The clothing removal is part of the fun (note: tequila helps here) - right up to the part where the tree-huggers try to push me back in the water...

:-(

> Jenny,
>
> It gets cold up north? :)
>
> My theory has always been that I'd rather be in cold weather than hot.
> I can add more layers if I'm cold but there is a limited amount of
> clothing I'm willling to take off :)
>
> But yeah, I suppose I will get used to it if I have to
>
> Rachel
>
> --- Jenny Jacobson <jenny_at_dsl.pitt.edu> wrote:
> > Rachael,
> >
> > In 1996, I moved from Minnesota to Houston Texas (Katy). By the time
> > summer rolls around, you get used to the humidity. It's like getting
> > used to the COLD up north.
> >
> > Jenny Jacobson
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> >
> > > 'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out?
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends
> > > down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE
> > UP)...
> > > but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted
> > from
> > > the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> wrote:
> > > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in
> > Austin,
> > > > but
> > > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened
> > up so
> > > > a lot
> > > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the
> > bigger
> > > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I
> > see
> > > > though is
> > > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting
> > to
> > > > hear
> > > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we
> > shouldn't
> > > > have
> > > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not
> > bad
> > > > here
> > > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great
> > place to
> > > > live.
> > > >
> > > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4
> > times
> > > > as many
> > > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the
> > market
> > > > for a
> > > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
> > > >
> > > > Jeffery Stevenson
> > > > Databeast Slayer
> > > > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > > > Austin, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Description for
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get
> > past
> > > > some
> > > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> > > > Hehehe...
> > > >
> > > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> > > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> > > > competing for
> > > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> > > > looking in
> > > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> > > > consulting, or
> > > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry
> > however
> > > > is
> > > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies
> > much
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and
> > better
> > > > ways to
> > > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way
> > to go
> > > > in
> > > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th
> > largest
> > > > city
> > > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters,
> > lots
> > > > of
> > > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government,
> > yearly
> > > > drought,
> > > > HOT for 9 months of the year.
> > > >
> > > > --Scott Shafer
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> > > > Description for
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort
> > of
> > > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being
> > job
> > > > > description.
> > > > >
> > > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech"
> > types
> > > > right
> > > > now.
> > > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large
> > number of
> > > > failed
> > > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of
> > Austin
> > > > failures
> > > > > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> > > > >
> > > > > Netpliance
> > > > > Hand Technologies
> > > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > > > > DrKoop.Com
> > > > > Garden.Com
> > > > > Furniture.Com
> > > > > carOrder.Com
> > > > >
> > > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added
> > to
> > > > the glut
> > > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> > > > reducing staff
> > > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM,
> > Perficient
> > > > and CSC.
> > > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> > > > pretty much
> > > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been
> > really
> > > > hurt by
> > > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the
> > startups.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even
> > the
> > > > Austin
> > > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> > > > "brain-drain" as
> > > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> > > > posited
> > > > the
> > > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> > > > tragedy was
> > > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9
> > months
> > > > ago,
> > > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could
> > spell
> > > > "PC" off
> > > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of
> > "Computer
> > > > Jobs"
> > > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior
> > positions
> > > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies
> > advertise,
> > > > but that
> > > > > trend has dried up as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > It anin't pretty folks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet
> > the
> > > > guy) in
> > > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the
> > height
> > > > of the
> > > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to
> > come
> > > > to
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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