at this point guys.... move this to the ot list before Jared gets
annoyed...
but while I have your attention:
I've SEEN Scott and Jeff in the same room. Ladies, find those chastity
belts -;)
- Scott Shafer <sknd100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Doh! Sorry for the oversite - lots on my mind lately. You're
> definitely invited, Jeff. We'll work sumthin' out.
>
> --S
>
>
> Jeffery Stevenson wrote:
> >
> > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
> >
> > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in
> Austin, but
> > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up
> so a lot
> > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the
> bigger
> > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see
> though is
> > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to
> hear
> > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we
> shouldn't have
> > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad
> here
> > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place
> to live.
> >
> > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4
> times as many
> > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market
> for a
> > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
> >
> > Jeffery Stevenson
> > Databeast Slayer
> > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > Austin, TX
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Description for
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get
> past some
> > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> Hehehe...
> >
> > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> competing for
> > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> looking in
> > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> consulting, or
> > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however
> is
> > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much
> though.
> >
> > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better
> ways to
> > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to
> go in
> > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th
> largest city
> > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters,
> lots of
> > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly
> drought,
> > HOT for 9 months of the year.
> >
> > --Scott Shafer
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> > Description for
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of
> > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being
> job
> > > description.
> > >
> > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types
> right
> > now.
> > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number
> of failed
> > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of
> Austin
> > failures
> > > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> > >
> > > Netpliance
> > > Hand Technologies
> > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > > DrKoop.Com
> > > Garden.Com
> > > Furniture.Com
> > > carOrder.Com
> > >
> > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to
> the glut
> > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> reducing staff
> > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient
> and CSC.
> > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> pretty much
> > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been
> really hurt by
> > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the
> startups.
> > >
> > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even
> the Austin
> > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> "brain-drain" as
> > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> posited
> > the
> > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> tragedy was
> > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9
> months ago,
> > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell
> "PC" off
> > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> > >
> > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of
> "Computer Jobs"
> > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
> > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise,
> but that
> > > trend has dried up as well.
> > >
> > > It anin't pretty folks.
> > >
> > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the
> guy) in
> > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the
> height of the
> > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come
> to
> > > Austin.
> > >
> > >
> > > David A. Barbour
> > > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > > AISD
> > > 512-414-1002
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Troiano, Paul
> > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple
> recipients
> > of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > <Paul.Troiano_at_geca cc:
> > > pital.com> Subject: RE:
> Help!: Job
> > Description for Data Architect
> > > Sent by:
> > > root_at_fatcity.com
> > >
> > >
> > > 11/12/2001 05:40
> > > PM
> > > Please respond to
> > > ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How is the job market in Austin?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > [mailto:DBarbour_at_austin.isd.tenet.edu]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in
> Austin-by-God, TX
> > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented
> developer
> > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is
> just a bit
> > > more than the school district is used to paying for
> "programmers." I
> > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the
> salary
>
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