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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: Another Oracle DBA gets "The Bullet" WAS: Help!: Job Descrip
Habanero salsa as a cure for heat???? Well, I suppose you're using kill or cure method down there in TX.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:25 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Descrip
You adapt quickly. And the Gods invented air conditioning, margaritas, and habanero salsa for just such environments.
--S
Rachel Carmichael wrote:
>
> 'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out?
>
> The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends
> down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE UP)...
> but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted from
> the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South.
>
> --- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> wrote:
> > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
> >
> > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in Austin,
> > but
> > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up so
> > a lot
> > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the bigger
> > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see
> > though is
> > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to
> > hear
> > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we shouldn't
> > have
> > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad
> > here
> > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place to
> > live.
> >
> > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 times
> > as many
> > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market
> > for a
> > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
> >
> > Jeffery Stevenson
> > Databeast Slayer
> > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > Austin, TX
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Description for
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get past
> > some
> > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> > competing for
> > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> > looking in
> > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> > consulting, or
> > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however
> > is
> > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much
> > though.
> >
> > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better
> > ways to
> > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to go
> > in
> > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th largest
> > city
> > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, lots
> > of
> > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly
> > drought,
> > HOT for 9 months of the year.
> >
> > --Scott Shafer
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> > Description for
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of
> > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being job
> > > description.
> > >
> > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types
> > right
> > now.
> > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number of
> > failed
> > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of Austin
> > failures
> > > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> > >
> > > Netpliance
> > > Hand Technologies
> > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > > DrKoop.Com
> > > Garden.Com
> > > Furniture.Com
> > > carOrder.Com
> > >
> > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to
> > the glut
> > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> > reducing staff
> > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient
> > and CSC.
> > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> > pretty much
> > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been really
> > hurt by
> > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the startups.
> > >
> > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even the
> > Austin
> > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> > "brain-drain" as
> > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> > posited
> > the
> > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> > tragedy was
> > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 months
> > ago,
> > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell
> > "PC" off
> > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> > >
> > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of "Computer
> > Jobs"
> > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
> > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise,
> > but that
> > > trend has dried up as well.
> > >
> > > It anin't pretty folks.
> > >
> > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the
> > guy) in
> > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the height
> > of the
> > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come
> > to
> > > Austin.
> > >
> > >
> > > David A. Barbour
> > > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > > AISD
> > > 512-414-1002
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Troiano, Paul
> > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple
> > recipients
> > of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > <Paul.Troiano_at_geca cc:
> > > pital.com> Subject: RE:
> > Help!: Job
> > Description for Data Architect
> > > Sent by:
> > > root_at_fatcity.com
> > >
> > >
> > > 11/12/2001 05:40
> > > PM
> > > Please respond to
> > > ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How is the job market in Austin?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > [mailto:DBarbour_at_austin.isd.tenet.edu]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in
> > Austin-by-God, TX
> > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented
> > developer
> > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is just
> > a bit
> > > more than the school district is used to paying for "programmers."
> > I
> > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the
> > salary
> > > (it's not that great folks - this guy just wants to stay in
> > Austin).
> > > "Wonderful idea" says the boss, "what should we call the position
> > to
> > > confuse the HR folks?" "Data Architect" I reply. "Great" says he,
> > "write
> > > it up and have it on my desk by 5:30."
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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