She is right about the summers but then there is the winters.....our highs
are in the 70s and low 80s.....no snow, sleet maybe once every other year
at most. If you go even further south it is like living in Mexico....never
getting very cold. I like that.
Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com>@fatcity.com on 11/13/2001
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'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out?
The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends
down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE UP)...
but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted from
the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South.
- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> wrote:
> Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
>
> Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in Austin,
> but
> not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up so
> a lot
> of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the bigger
> companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see
> though is
> that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to
> hear
> little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we shouldn't
> have
> gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad
> here
> though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place to
> live.
>
> Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4 times
> as many
> Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market
> for a
> friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
>
> Jeffery Stevenson
> Databeast Slayer
> Medical Present Value, Inc.
> Austin, TX
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> David,
>
> Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get past
> some
> current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> Hehehe...
>
> San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> competing for
> a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> looking in
> SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> consulting, or
> big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however
> is
> tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much
> though.
>
> If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better
> ways to
> "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to go
> in
> Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th largest
> city
> in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters, lots
> of
> recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly
> drought,
> HOT for 9 months of the year.
>
> --Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
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>
> >
> > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of
> > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being job
> > description.
> >
> > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types
> right
> now.
> > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number of
> failed
> > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of Austin
> failures
> > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> >
> > Netpliance
> > Hand Technologies
> > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > DrKoop.Com
> > Garden.Com
> > Furniture.Com
> > carOrder.Com
> >
> > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to
> the glut
> > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> reducing staff
> > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient
> and CSC.
> > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> pretty much
> > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been really
> hurt by
> > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the startups.
> >
> > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even the
> Austin
> > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> "brain-drain" as
> > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> posited
> the
> > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> tragedy was
> > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9 months
> ago,
> > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell
> "PC" off
> > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> >
> > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of "Computer
> Jobs"
> > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
> > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise,
> but that
> > trend has dried up as well.
> >
> > It anin't pretty folks.
> >
> > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the
> guy) in
> > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the height
> of the
> > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come
> to
> > Austin.
> >
> >
> > David A. Barbour
> > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > AISD
> > 512-414-1002
> >
> >
> >
> > "Troiano, Paul
> > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple
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> of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How is the job market in Austin?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:DBarbour_at_austin.isd.tenet.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
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> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in
> Austin-by-God, TX
> > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented
> developer
> > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is just
> a bit
> > more than the school district is used to paying for "programmers."
> I
> > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the
> salary
> > (it's not that great folks - this guy just wants to stay in
> Austin).
> > "Wonderful idea" says the boss, "what should we call the position
> to
> > confuse the HR folks?" "Data Architect" I reply. "Great" says he,
> "write
> > it up and have it on my desk by 5:30."
>
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