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RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

From: Guy Hammond <guy.hammond_at_avt.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:21:21 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.003993CB.20010926081024@fatcity.com>

VNC is fantastic, it's probably better for this sort of thing that a combination of X11 and PC Anywhere.

Just for fun, I was running vncserver on a Sun, and vncclient on my Win2K machine, then I started up vncserver on Win2K and fired up the vncclient for Solaris (already running in a vncserver) and looped back again onto Win2K. I have two monitors here, and I got them to both show the content of the left hand one by this technique, rather than one large desktop. Which was kinda useless, but it did adequately demonstrate to management (who were about to spend $$$ on eXceed) just how useful VNC is...

Plus, it does things that X can't do, for example you can be working on a Sun, disconnect from your running session, then reconnect from another workstation, totally seamlessly (like 'screen' does on the cmd line, but with graphical apps). And you can have a dozen users doing this on the same machine, for that thin client style. Very nice indeed.

g

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Some comments and queries interspersed below.

>> From: Steven Lembark <lembark_at_wrkhors.com>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:18:05 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Physical access to servers for maintenance
<Begin Snip>
>>Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is the
>>pager number of someone we can use if we do need things done?" Make
>>a point of paging them every time you need something from the shell,
>>day or night. That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list
>>of the trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should
have
>>done for themselves at 3am...

<End Snip>

Like your thinking on this Steven :)

>> From: "Thater, William" <ThaterW_at_telergy.net>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:20:42 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Physical access to servers for maintenance
<Begin snip>
>>if the server
>>crashes and you have to restart the DB without VNC or PC Anywhere
running,

>>how do you do that?

<End Snip>

William, I would expect the Sys Admins to restart the server. The DB(s) should subsequently come up. Am I missing something in what you wish to convey?

My conclusion based upon what I've read on this thread was that installs were raised as the primary flag for local physical access but that even this
can be worked around if necessary.

So what tools are people using for "remote" administration?. Perhaps to be
more specific if you're on LAN but have no phyisical access to server and
then same for WAN and then over PSTN. Do you use different tools for remote
admin in these different scenarios, i.e. distance and bandwidth limitations
force use of different tools?.

Anyone any feedback on experiences of PocketDBA product?.

Anyone any "bad press" or gotchas about VNC?

Sean :)

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