Re: Rachel - RE: 2nd DBA or ?

I am impressed by both of you guys. I drive a used 97 Altima....

"Gogala, Mladen" wrote:

> Where exactly are you coming from? Beware because me, my Ford F350 and my
> faithful pump-action shotgun always have the right of way, $75k car or
> not....
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: satar naghshineh [mailto:satarnag_at_yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:40 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Rachel - RE: 2nd DBA or ?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > way too cynical.
> >
> > Thanks! It's this personality (or lack of) that has
> > made me very sucessful at my age. I was driving a 45k
> > dollar car (which you rode in) and owned my first
> > house at age 23. Now at 26, I also own a new Benz
> > (valued at 75k) and own a second home. I hate to sound
> > egotistical (isn't that one of the traits of a good
> > DBA?), but I just want you to know where I am coming
> > from.
> >
> > > One of the few things I learned in the management
> > > class I took was "you have to train the people
> > > below you to do your job if you ever want a
> > > promotion"
> >
> > Who wants to work in Management? At my full-time job,
> > I make close to what my boss makes (he is the CIO) but
> > without all the responsibility and dealing with
> > personal problems. To me, if you know the basics of
> > Business Management and Child Psychology, you'll do
> > well in Management.
> >
> > > If no one else can do what you do, then you can't
> > > move on to other things.
> >
> > Maybe because I'm still young, but I always believe
> > that your future is in your own hands, not at your
> > company's discretion. If I don't get what I want, then
> > I move on to another company. It might change when I
> > get married and have kids, in which I have to worry if
> > my child eats Frosted Flakes cereal in the morning or
> > if he/she goes to school hungry. Until then, I am
> > free.
> >
> > > On the other hand, Satar is a consultant.
> >
> > I also have a full time job, but hopefully I can quit
> > my job soon if this project I'm currently working on
> > is sucessful. I have goals, and I am close to
> > self-actualizing them.
> >
> > > And looking at the world from that direction, you
> > > wouldn't want anyone else around to do what you do
> > > because you'd lose the contract if there were a
> > > full-timer around (you can have a fulltimer put in
> > > extra hours without having to pay more)
> >
> > Nice philosophy. In a dog-eat-dog world, it's good not
> > to be a dog! Also, if you live in California, chances
> > are you are getting paid by the hour, along with
> > overtime. California residents, you might want to look
> > into California Assembly Bill 60 (AB 60) on the
> > internet.
> >
> > > But as a full-time employee, I want someone else
> > > around. Because there is ALWAYS too much work for
> > > one person, at least in my shop.
> >
> > The MIS managers or system admins can experience
> > Oracle Support if they can't get a hold of me.
> > Unfortunately, they put a lo-jack system (cell phone)
> > on me, so I am available to them 24/7. To date, after
> > 1 and half years working for this company, none of my
> > databases have experienced any problems. I like to
> > think it's due to my expertise, or maybe I'm wrong,
> > and it's just luck.
> >
> > Also, I hope this doesn't come across mean or
> > unappreciative, but if you remove yourself from the
> > list, you will give yourself so much more time to
> > tackle the work at your shop. As you might have
> > noticed, I removed myself from the list for 7-8 months
> > while my company gave me the responsibility of UK's
> > databases. I needed that time to go to the UK,
> > configure and tune the datbases, setup an automated
> > backup and recovery procedure, post application tuning
> > and provide remote support, along with other things.
> >
> > I do have to agree with Christopher Spence, if this is
> > a in-house Development, or continued developed oracle
> > application environment, then of course you will need
> > additional people to help you out.
> >
> > I initially replied to this post, because I was given
> > the same opportunity to bring in another DBA for the
> > UK. I chose to do the job myself, eliminating a
> > part-time DBA that was positioned in the UK and also
> > removing the need for Oracle Support in the UK (which
> > is extremely expensive compared to the US).
> >
> > I made my suggestion based on my previous experiences
> > as a consultant working for corporate America. You may
> > call it cynical and paranoid, which is ok because
> > everyone is entitled to their own views, but this is
> > my reality.
> >
> > > Rachel
> >
> > Regards,
> > Satar
> >
> > PS I'm glad to see you are OK from last week's
> > attacks. I was praying for everyone in NY and
> > Washington, especially for you. I hope you and your
> > family are doing well.
> >
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