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Rachel - RE: 2nd DBA or ?

From: satar naghshineh <>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:58:50 -0700
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Thanks! It's this personality (or lack of) that has made me very sucessful at my age. I was driving a 45k dollar car (which you rode in) and owned my first house at age 23. Now at 26, I also own a new Benz (valued at 75k) and own a second home. I hate to sound egotistical (isn't that one of the traits of a good DBA?), but I just want you to know where I am coming from.

> One of the few things I learned in the management
> class I took was "you have to train the people
> below you to do your job if you ever want a
> promotion"

Who wants to work in Management? At my full-time job, I make close to what my boss makes (he is the CIO) but without all the responsibility and dealing with personal problems. To me, if you know the basics of Business Management and Child Psychology, you'll do well in Management.  

> If no one else can do what you do, then you can't
> move on to other things.

Maybe because I'm still young, but I always believe that your future is in your own hands, not at your company's discretion. If I don't get what I want, then I move on to another company. It might change when I get married and have kids, in which I have to worry if my child eats Frosted Flakes cereal in the morning or if he/she goes to school hungry. Until then, I am free.  

> On the other hand, Satar is a consultant.

I also have a full time job, but hopefully I can quit my job soon if this project I'm currently working on is sucessful. I have goals, and I am close to self-actualizing them.

> And looking at the world from that direction, you
> wouldn't want anyone else around to do what you do
> because you'd lose the contract if there were a
> full-timer around (you can have a fulltimer put in
> extra hours without having to pay more)

Nice philosophy. In a dog-eat-dog world, it's good not to be a dog! Also, if you live in California, chances are you are getting paid by the hour, along with overtime. California residents, you might want to look into California Assembly Bill 60 (AB 60) on the internet.  

> But as a full-time employee, I want someone else
> around. Because there is ALWAYS too much work for
> one person, at least in my shop.

The MIS managers or system admins can experience Oracle Support if they can't get a hold of me. Unfortunately, they put a lo-jack system (cell phone) on me, so I am available to them 24/7. To date, after 1 and half years working for this company, none of my databases have experienced any problems. I like to think it's due to my expertise, or maybe I'm wrong, and it's just luck.

Also, I hope this doesn't come across mean or unappreciative, but if you remove yourself from the list, you will give yourself so much more time to tackle the work at your shop. As you might have noticed, I removed myself from the list for 7-8 months while my company gave me the responsibility of UK's databases. I needed that time to go to the UK, configure and tune the datbases, setup an automated backup and recovery procedure, post application tuning and provide remote support, along with other things.

I do have to agree with Christopher Spence, if this is a in-house Development, or continued developed oracle application environment, then of course you will need additional people to help you out.

I initially replied to this post, because I was given the same opportunity to bring in another DBA for the UK. I chose to do the job myself, eliminating a part-time DBA that was positioned in the UK and also removing the need for Oracle Support in the UK (which is extremely expensive compared to the US).

I made my suggestion based on my previous experiences as a consultant working for corporate America. You may call it cynical and paranoid, which is ok because everyone is entitled to their own views, but this is my reality.  

> Rachel


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