RE: 2nd DBA or ?

From: Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:31:35 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00394C2E.20010921082549@fatcity.com>

Ditto. One of the things that I get praised on is me training people. Damn, I will train the whole office if that's what it takes. I have been the only one, got a second dba for a month, and am back to being the only one. Life is a lot easier with the second one around let me tell you. And it also lets you spread out the day to day 'boring' tasks so you have time to tackle more exciting problems.

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way too cynical.

One of the few things I learned in the management class I took was "you have to train the people
below you to do your job if you ever want a promotion"

If no one else can do what you do, then you can't move on to other things.

On the other hand, Satar is a consultant. And looking at the world from that direction, you
wouldn't want anyone else around to do what you do because you'd lose the contract if there were a
full-timer around (you can have a fulltimer put in extra hours without having to pay more)

But as a full-time employee, I want someone else around. Because there is ALWAYS too much work for
one person, at least in my shop.

Rachel

• "Weaver, Walt" <wweaver_at_rightnow.com> wrote:
  > Well, this seems to me to be a cynical/paranoid way of looking at things.
  > Probably true in some circles though.
  >
  > Personally, I'm with the Hire A Second DBA crowd. I, too, would much
  rather
  > have a life. Too much fun stuff to do out there, too many places to go and
  > beer to drink.
  >
  > --Walt (I'm goin' fishin') Weaver
  > Bozeman, Montana
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:45 PM
  > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  >
  >
  > If we lived in a perfect world, where the employee
  > matters, then I would hire an additional DBA to share
  > ideas and responsibility.
  >
  > However, since we live in a capatilistic world, I
  > would do the job by myself for the following reasons:
  > 1. Management will see one of you as being redundant
  > during financial problems because there was one person
  > doing this job before, therefore they can get rid of
  > one of the DBAs and still be ok.
  >
  > 2. Mamangement acknowledges that there is a possible
  > need to hire an additional person, thus acknowledging
  > that you do the job of two people. This is a benefit
  > to you for asking for a big pay increase.
  >
  > 3. Hiring Oracle consultants and purchasing software
  > are tax deductible to the company as opposed to paying
  > a salary to another person and providing them with
  > Health Care and Office Space. At least in the USA.
  >
  > 4. If you hire a entry-level DBA, chances are that
  > he/she will learn his skill set from you and then
  > move on to bigger opportunities (which puts you back
  > to square one) or he/she will just stab you in the
  > back to try to get your job.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Satar
  >
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