RE: 2nd DBA or ?

Document getting hit by a bus? You must have a photographer following you around....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: 2nd DBA or ?
>
>
> one of my old bosses used to prefix things with "if Rachel gets hit by
> a bus...."
>
> still didn't hire anyone else, just asked me to document
>
>
> --- "Koivu, Lisa" <lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com> wrote:
> > Another angle: when I left my last job, I was the only dba. They
> > panicked
> > and did everything they could to try to keep me. The
> result was they
> > were
> > left without a skilled dedicated dba, assigning my job
> > responsibilities to a
> > bda (big dumb a$$) who tried to learn it in one week.
> >
> > Any manager should be well aware of how dependent they
> become on just
> > one
> > person in such an important role. What if that person gets hit by a
> > bus?
> >
> > Lisa Koivu
> > Oracle Database Administrator
> > Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> > 954-935-4117
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Spence [SMTP:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:15 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: 2nd DBA or ?
> > >
> > > Agreed, it is in the best interest of the company to have two
> > Oracle
> > > professionals. ESPECIALLY if your doing in house development.
> > >
> > > Production support, generally the amount of dba's is very
> black and
> > white,
> > > you can tell by the amount of work they are doing and how much has
> > to be
> > > put
> > > off to the next day. As for development, it is not as
> measurable.
> > I tend
> > > to like a lot of involvement with development, even help out code
> > when
> > > there
> > > are some issues that need to resolve quickly. It is very
> > noticeable when
> > > a
> > > product is development without dba involvement.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes,
> > that way
> > > when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their
> > shoes."
> > >
> > > Christopher R. Spence
> > > Oracle DBA
> > > Phone: (978) 322-5744
> > > Fax: (707) 885-2275
> > >
> > > Fuelspot
> > > 73 Princeton Street
> > > North, Chelmsford 01863
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:10 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > > Well, this seems to me to be a cynical/paranoid way of looking at
> > things.
> > > Probably true in some circles though.
> > >
> > > Personally, I'm with the Hire A Second DBA crowd. I, too, would
> > much
> > > rather
> > > have a life. Too much fun stuff to do out there, too many
> places to
> > go and
> > > beer to drink.
> > >
> > > --Walt (I'm goin' fishin') Weaver
> > > Bozeman, Montana
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:45 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > If we lived in a perfect world, where the employee
> > > matters, then I would hire an additional DBA to share
> > > ideas and responsibility.
> > >
> > > However, since we live in a capatilistic world, I
> > > would do the job by myself for the following reasons:
> > > 1. Management will see one of you as being redundant
> > > during financial problems because there was one person
> > > doing this job before, therefore they can get rid of
> > > one of the DBAs and still be ok.
> > >
> > > 2. Mamangement acknowledges that there is a possible
> > > need to hire an additional person, thus acknowledging
> > > that you do the job of two people. This is a benefit
> > > to you for asking for a big pay increase.
> > >
> > > 3. Hiring Oracle consultants and purchasing software
> > > are tax deductible to the company as opposed to paying
> > > a salary to another person and providing them with
> > > Health Care and Office Space. At least in the USA.
> > >
> > > 4. If you hire a entry-level DBA, chances are that
> > > he/she will learn his skill set from you and then
> > > move on to bigger opportunities (which puts you back
> > > to square one) or he/she will just stab you in the
> > > back to try to get your job.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Satar
> > >
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