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RE: How do you audit a DBA?

From: Ron Rogers <RROGERS_at_galottery.org>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:31:03 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00386D8A.20010907091629@fatcity.com>

13 characters if you count the spaces, 14 with the question mark.

>>> lerobe_at_acxiom.co.uk 09/07/01 12:10PM >>>
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Who audits the auditor's auditor?

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence
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"The point is, you only need one, single trusted person to hold the administrator account (someone from your audit firm, for example) and almost everything can be done by sub-administrators who only have the precise permissions they need and no more. In theory, anyway :0)"

There's that "single point of failure" again! so... the auditor is more trusted than the DBA?

Who audits the auditor?

>From: "Guy Hammond" <guy.hammond_at_avt.co.uk>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: How do you audit a DBA?
>Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:45:06 -0800
>
>There is an administrator account, but individual users can configure
>access control lists on their files (right-click, properties, security)
>that would prevent the administrator from reading them. The only way
>that an administrator could then read them would be to "take ownership"
>first. Unlike Unix, ownership of a file is taken rather than given, so
>even if an Administrator read a confidential file, the OS would not let
>then erase traces of having done so. If you wanted to steal a file, you
>could obviously back it up to tape (if you have the Backup Operator
>role) restore it to another system, take ownership there and read it
>(unless it was encrypted of course) but there's only so much an OS can
>do about physical security.
>
>The point is, you only need one, single trusted person to hold the
>administrator account (someone from your audit firm, for example) and
>almost everything can be done by sub-administrators who only have the
>precise permissions they need and no more. In theory, anyway :0)
>
>g
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:41 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>but doesn't there have to be ONE account/role in NT that can assign all
>the others? how else could you set up a role or continue to set them
>up?
>
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