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You build a better mouse trap, the mice get bigger and smarter.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:41 PM
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Re. Windows security...
http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,46531,00.html
<http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,46531,00.html>
Seems WindowsXP is circulating already.
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
-----Original Message-----
From: Miller, Jay [SMTP:JayMiller_at_TDWaterhouse.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:16 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: How do you audit a DBA?
You mean you think DBAs should do things? My company's auditors
were aghast
when I told them that I did things such as write Unix scripts to
monitor the
database. They were firmly of the opinion that DBAs should not be
allowed
to write code, only developers should write code. That was a major
audit
violation right there. We eventually finessed the issue (we didn't
bring it
up again and they forgot about it as they pursued more important
things such
as trying to convince the company to drop Unix since it wasn't as
secure as
NT), but for a while I started speaking to headhunters again in case
all the
things the auditors were insisting on were actually put in place.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:06 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
What is the purpose of having a dba if he is not allowed to do
anything?
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax: (707) 885-2275
Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:12 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Dave,
Your question is somewhat puzzling. Anyone with DBA privileges
can get
to any table they want since the DBA role contains the 'select any
table',
'update any table', 'delete any table', and 'insert any table'
system
privileges. You would not require the sys or system passwords to
accomplish
that task. Is the person asking the question suspicious of one
person or
all of the DBA's at your site? At any rate it would be best to
audit all
activity against the tables in question and then filter the data
after the
fact. This is somewhat more important since a trigger cannot catch
a
select, but database auditing can.
Also, if it's a DBA who is questionable he/she would have access to
empty
out the sys.aud$ table of any activity they created.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Dave Leach <Dave.Leach_at_claybrook.co.uk>
Date: 8/23/2001 7:56 AM
Anyone who can help,
I've been asked if Oracle can somehow audit the DBA ie. Raise an
alert if
the DBA were to execute DML statements against sensitive tables,
this
assumes the DBA has the SYS password. I thought this was a pretty
reasonable question but couldn't think of an answer. My trail of
though was
maybe an email alert to a designated member of staff sent via a
trigger on
the table.
Any comments would be very appreciated.
Dave Leach
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