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RE: OT: any spam today?

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 11:11:55 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00382360.20010904112120@fatcity.com>

Okay, taking some of the other side here.....

we have mailing lists, we have very real unsubscribe information in the newsletters we send out. We do NOT want to spam people or annoy them, then they say bad things about us and their friends don't sign up.

BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To unsubscribe, your email has to come from the email 
address that we have in our database or we can't automate the process. And if we can't automatically unsubscribe you, then we have to wait until you get annoyed and send an email to customer support.

For example:

you have an msn.com account. That's what you used to register in our database. But when you hit reply, your email actually comes from mail.msn.com No match, no unsubscribe. (yes, we are collecting these sorts of anomalies and coding around them, but we get new ones every day)

Or..... you signed up a while ago on our site. You get a second account, decide to use that one for mail and forward your mail from the original account. when you try to unsubscribe, we get the mail from the new account, not the one you originally registered with. No match, no unsubscribe.

Finally... you signed up under an old email account, forwarded the mail and forgot you did it. You send us mail from your new account demanding to know why we don't unsubscribe you from the (new) account (usually using language that my mother would wash my mouth out with soap if I used TODAY). We search our databases, find an email that is registered to a name that matches yours and is similar in some way to the new account. We write back politely asking if the account we found was or is one of yours. Invariably, it is. Also invariably, we never get an apology for the language used.

So... bottom line is, if you have trouble getting unsubscribed, it might NOT be the site's fault.

>From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: OT: any spam today?
>Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 08:32:46 -0800
>
>ESPECIALLY with EXCITE. my kids sign up for stuff all the time, and I am
>NEVER able to remove their names from the mailing lists.
>
>wish there was a way to send a fire-bomb thru email....
>
>Tom Mercadante
>Oracle Certified Professional
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:17 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>I haven't received those myself.
>
>Be forewarned that the option to remove often
>doesn't work and is actually a device to verify
>that your email address is valid.
>
>Jared
>
>On Tuesday 04 September 2001 08:31, Ron Rogers wrote:
> > List,
> > Has any one received un solicited emails from "SYMPHONY_at_acmemail.net"
>or
> > "mary_4ra_at_excite.com" about business opportunities. I can't get the
>email
> > to respond to the remove option at "removes3_at_excite.com " I keep getting
> > invalid recipient.
> >
> > ROR ma?am
>--
>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
>--
>Author: Jared Still
> INET: jkstill_at_cybcon.com
>
>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
>to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
>also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
>--
>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
>--
>Author: Mercadante, Thomas F
> INET: NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us
>
>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
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>also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).



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Author: Rachel Carmichael
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(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Received on Tue Sep 04 2001 - 13:11:55 CDT

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