From granaman@home.com Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:43:10 -0700 From: "Don Granaman" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:43:10 -0700 Subject: Re: first there is a mountain, then there is no mountain... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm not sure I would believe much that is based on any ITAA report (as is this article). They appear to have a hidden agenda. See: http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.real.html Where I am, there were always three or more pages of ads in the help wanted section for IT. For the last two months, it has never exceeded two and a half columns - less than half a page. Even the local recruiters are whining about how dead the IT job market is here. When one Oracle DBA position came up recently, I got calls from six different recruiters within two days. Four of them I'd never even heard of before their call. -Don Granaman [certifiable Orasaurus] ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:05 PM > http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO63459,00.html > > Demand still exceeds supply for IT workers, even though demand is lower than > one year ago. IT salaries up 6% this year, beating the 4% national average. > The bad news - flood of ex-dot-com workers has created a glut of people with > those skills. > > > ComputerWorld > By LINDA ROSENCRANCE > (August 31, 2001) IT workers getting ready to enjoy the > Labor Day weekend can celebrate the holiday knowing that > they're in a field where demand remains strong despite the > sluggish economy -- although that demand may not translate > into higher salaries this year. > > To compete for skilled IT workers, companies aren't > necessarily offering higher salaries. Employers are pushing > other benefits, such as flexible hours, training and > telecommuting choices to attract and retain employees, > according to a Cutter Consortium survey of 47 Fortune 1,000 > companies. > > > "The fact that companies are having trouble keeping up with > market salaries means that salaries are rising more rapidly > than expected," said Cutter consultant Chris Pickering, who > wrote the report "Survey of E-Business and IT Practices." > "This means that there is greater demand for IT staff than > there is supply." > > > To attract the best IT people, companies are allowing > workers to telecommute and training them on technologies > that will lead to work on cutting-edge projects. > > > Pickering noted that the focus on nonsalary benefits > supports one or both of these claims: the long-standing > view that IT professionals are more concerned about working > conditions and advancing their technical expertise and that > companies have gone as far as they are willing to go in > terms of salary, signaling a leveling off or decline in > salary increases. > > > Meanwhile, Computerworld's annual salary survey, which will > be released Tuesday, shows that IT salaries are rising > moderately this year, averaging just under 6% but still > higher than the 4% raise the average U.S. worker can > expect. > > > A study released in April by the Information Technology > Association of America (ITAA) - > http://www.itaa.org/workforce/studies/01execsumm.htm - an > Arlington, Va.-based trade group, also supports the view > that demand for IT workers remains substantial although not > as strong as the demand a year ago. > > > An ITAA report titled "When Can You Start?" concluded that > demand for IT workers is strong despite a 44% drop in > demand from last year. Based on telephone interviews with > 685 hiring managers, the report said that this year, > employers will try to fill more than 900,000 new IT jobs > and that 425,000 of those jobs will remain vacant. Last > year, the ITAA said there were 850,000 openings for IT > workers. > > > According to the group, the jobs most in demand by IT and > non-IT companies through the first quarter of 2002 remain > in the area of technical support, although demand for > technical support professionals is down 65% from last year. > The ITAA added that while the slowdown in the economy has > diminished IT spending, demand for IT talent with the > requisite technical skills persists. > > > Pickering said the glut of ex-dot-com workers flooding the > job market has led to a mismatch of skills between > employers and potential employees. According to > Chicago-based outplacement firm Challenger, Gray & > Christmas, 87,795 dot-com workers were laid off since > January. > > > "Java programmers are not in top demand now," Pickering > said. "Because companies are concerned with integrating > legacy systems with e-business systems, [people] with > cross-application integration skills [are in demand]." > > > Shuman Lee, director of analytics for online recruiting > firm Techies.com in Bloomington, Minn., agreed that the > demand for qualified IT professionals far outweighs the > supply. > > > "[Companies] can't get enough [IT] people. The technology > field is just growing too rapidly," Lee said. "And > [prospective employees] are getting more attractive > packages." > > > Lee said some of the best-paying jobs for those with IT > skills are systems administration, where the average salary > for a worker with 10 years of experience was $78,400, > nearly 72% more than the average starting salary for this > job title; project management, where employees can expect > to earn about $47,400 to start and $93,600 after 10 years; > and technology management, where 10-year veterans earn > about $97,400, about twice the $48,600 starting salary. > Entry-level positions in the last two categories, however, > are hard to come by, Lee said. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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