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Ultimately, the users are the people you are working for. I'd rather involve them in the design stages so that I give them what they want and need rather than what I think they need.
Since THEY are the ones using the system, they have to be happy with it
>From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <DFarnsworth_at_Ashleyfurniture.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:16:17 -0800
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> >- Jared wrote
> >-but we choose a path that requires less 'direction' from users.
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>"users" is the key word for me. I like working with the developers but
>keep
>the users far, very, very far away!
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>Dave
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>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:16 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>Um, Kevin, if the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear it. :)
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>Not all developers are duhvelopers, in fact, most of the ones I know
>are very good, but the ones that are duhvelopers require
>so much attention that it kind of wears on you. :)
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>And some of us DB-ehs can do just fine writing apps, thank you,
>but we choose a path that requires less 'direction' from users. ;)
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>Jared
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> "Thomas, Kevin"
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>I have to say I resent being called a duhveloper, granted the majority
>couldn't tune a banjo let alone tune a piece of SQL, but as a techie (and
>we
>all are), I find this list invaluable for getting advice on a wide range of
>topics, not just keeping a DB up and running or tuned...I don't call you
>guys names, and let's face it you DB-ehs? couldn't write a decent
>application if your lives depended on it...
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>(blue touch-paper lit, retire a distance, do not re-approach once lit, and
>wait for fireworks)
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>"hit any user to continue"
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>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: 30 August 2001 15:46
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>no, those posts keep us "underworked" DBAs from killing the duhvelopers who
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>make us do the same thing over and over and over and who never listen when
>we tell them the correct way to design the tables.
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>:)
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> >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:52 -0800
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> >Just look at the number of OT postings in the last couple of months...
> >
> >: )
> >
> >Patrice Boivin
> >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com [SMTP:schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:58 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
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> > You're surprised at those willing to pay?
> >
> > You have to realize that most DBAs are over-payed and
>under-worked
> >....
> > <<ducking>>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com
>[mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: !! Keeping the list alive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This list is apparently a more valuable resource to many of
>you
> >than I
> > > realized.
> > >
> > > I'm literally bowled over by the generosity. I've received
> > > so many emails
> > > about
> > > this that I really can't personally reply to them all right
>now.
> > >
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