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those includes aren't necessary :)
see? we SAID you weren't a DUHveloper!
>From: "Thomas, Kevin" <Kevin.Thomas_at_calanais.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: OT: Duhvelopers and DB-ehs?
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:47:14 -0800
>
>#include nose.brown.*
>#include humble.pie.*
>
>Rachel,
>I would never, *ever* consider putting a design together without including
>a
>DBA, that's suicidal! I can design a database, tables, constraints,
>triggers
>etc, etc..but I always turn to the people that know in order to get
>accurate
>sizings etc for growth as well as giving any desgins the once-over.
>Ultimately I can't build an application without a decent back end and
>that's
>were you guys come in ;-)
>
>K.
>
>"hit any user to continue"
>__________________
>
>Kevin Thomas
>Technical Analyst
>Deregulation Services
>Calanais Ltd.
>(2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
>Tel: 0141 568 2377
>Fax: 0141 568 2366
>http://www.calanais.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: 31 August 2001 14:17
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>I programmed for 15 years before becoming a DBA 10 years ago. I may not be
>able to program in the current toolset (but that's just learning curve
>time). But I can for sure design an application that WORKS.
>
>Just ask my developers (note spelling please). They've finally come to the
>conclusion that it saves time to include me in the design phase of new
>projects. And not just for help in designing tables. Hm, I see a possible
>career change again for me.
>
>Rachel
>
>
> >From: "Thomas, Kevin" <Kevin.Thomas_at_calanais.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: OT: Duhvelopers and DB-ehs?
> >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:40:19 -0800
> >
> >LOL...with 31 systems to support 24/7/365 if you threw a stone in any
> >direction you would hit a DBA. At the last count I believe we had 12...!!
> >
> >
> >__________________
> >
> >Kevin Thomas
> >Technical Analyst
> >Deregulation Services
> >Calanais Ltd.
> >(2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
> >Tel: 0141 568 2377
> >Fax: 0141 568 2366
> >http://www.calanais.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: 30 August 2001 17:22
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Sounds like your company is looking for a new DBA? :-))))
> >
> >Jan Pruner
> >
> >Dne ?t 30. srpen 2001 17:26 jste napsal(a):
> > > I have to say I resent being called a duhveloper, granted the majority
> > > couldn't tune a banjo let alone tune a piece of SQL, but as a techie
> >(and
> > > we all are), I find this list invaluable for getting advice on a wide
> >range
> > > of topics, not just keeping a DB up and running or tuned...I don't
>call
> >you
> > > guys names, and let's face it you DB-ehs? couldn't write a decent
> > > application if your lives depended on it...
> > >
> > > (blue touch-paper lit, retire a distance, do not re-approach once lit,
> >and
> > > wait for fireworks)
> > >
> > >
> > > "hit any user to continue"
> > > __________________
> > >
> > > Kevin Thomas
> > > Technical Analyst
> > > Deregulation Services
> > > Calanais Ltd.
> > > (2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
> > > Tel: 0141 568 2377
> > > Fax: 0141 568 2366
> > > http://www.calanais.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: 30 August 2001 15:46
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > no, those posts keep us "underworked" DBAs from killing the
>duhvelopers
> >who
> > > make us do the same thing over and over and over and who never listen
> >when
> > > we tell them the correct way to design the tables.
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> > >
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > > >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:52 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Just look at the number of OT postings in the last couple of
>months...
> > > >
> > > >: )
> > > >
> > > >Patrice Boivin
> > > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > > >
> > > >Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
> > > >Technology Services | Services technologiques
> > > >Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
> > > >Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
> > > >
> > > >E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com [SMTP:schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:58 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > > >
> > > > You're surprised at those willing to pay?
> > > >
> > > > You have to realize that most DBAs are over-payed and under-worked
> > > >....
> > > > <<ducking>>
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Subject: !! Keeping the list alive
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This list is apparently a more valuable resource to many of you
> > > >
> > > >than I
> > > >
> > > > > realized.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm literally bowled over by the generosity. I've received
> > > > > so many emails
> > > > > about
> > > > > this that I really can't personally reply to them all right now.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Author:
> > > > INET: schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com
> > > >
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