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RE: Duhvelopers and DB-ehs?

From: Thomas, Kevin <Kevin.Thomas_at_calanais.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:46:36 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0037EFCC.20010831054711@fatcity.com>

Database monitoring tools....thrrp! We wrote our own using Java and lots of SQL are shell scripts...patchy but it works ;-)


Kevin Thomas
Technical Analyst
Deregulation Services
Calanais Ltd.
(2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
Tel: 0141 568 2377
Fax: 0141 568 2366
http://www.calanais.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 31 August 2001 14:17
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I've got 11 databases (and just found out I'll probably have a new one, a semi, sort of, kind of data warehouse -- I need those books!)

and there is me, my junior DBA who is not so junior anymore, and one consultant.

And my CTO thinks that the DBAs are really just extra programming resources.

So half the time we are doing non-DBA work.

Oh yeah, and we don't have any of those high-falutin' database monitoring tools either :)

>From: Robertson Lee - lerobe <lerobe_at_acxiom.co.uk>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Duhvelopers and DB-ehs?
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:55:26 -0800
>
>Bloody Hell, we have half that amount of systems yet only two DBAs. What on
>earth do they do with the rest of their time.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: 31 August 2001 09:40
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>LOL...with 31 systems to support 24/7/365 if you threw a stone in any
>direction you would hit a DBA. At the last count I believe we had 12...!!
>
>
>__________________
>
>Kevin Thomas
>Technical Analyst
>Deregulation Services
>Calanais Ltd.
>(2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
>Tel: 0141 568 2377
>Fax: 0141 568 2366
>http://www.calanais.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: 30 August 2001 17:22
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Sounds like your company is looking for a new DBA? :-))))
>
>Jan Pruner
>
>Dne ?t 30. srpen 2001 17:26 jste napsal(a):
> > I have to say I resent being called a duhveloper, granted the majority
> > couldn't tune a banjo let alone tune a piece of SQL, but as a techie
>(and
> > we all are), I find this list invaluable for getting advice on a wide
>range
> > of topics, not just keeping a DB up and running or tuned...I don't call
>you
> > guys names, and let's face it you DB-ehs? couldn't write a decent
> > application if your lives depended on it...
> >
> > (blue touch-paper lit, retire a distance, do not re-approach once lit,
>and
> > wait for fireworks)
> >
> >
> > "hit any user to continue"
> > __________________
> >
> > Kevin Thomas
> > Technical Analyst
> > Deregulation Services
> > Calanais Ltd.
> > (2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
> > Tel: 0141 568 2377
> > Fax: 0141 568 2366
> > http://www.calanais.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 30 August 2001 15:46
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > no, those posts keep us "underworked" DBAs from killing the duhvelopers
>who
> > make us do the same thing over and over and over and who never listen
>when
> > we tell them the correct way to design the tables.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> >
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:52 -0800
> > >
> > >Just look at the number of OT postings in the last couple of months...
> > >
> > >: )
> > >
> > >Patrice Boivin
> > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > >
> > >Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
> > >Technology Services | Services technologiques
> > >Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
> > >Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
> > >
> > >E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com [SMTP:schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:58 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > >
> > > You're surprised at those willing to pay?
> > >
> > > You have to realize that most DBAs are over-payed and under-worked
> > >....
> > > <<ducking>>
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: !! Keeping the list alive
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This list is apparently a more valuable resource to many of you
> > >
> > >than I
> > >
> > > > realized.
> > > >
> > > > I'm literally bowled over by the generosity. I've received
> > > > so many emails
> > > > about
> > > > this that I really can't personally reply to them all right now.
> > >
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