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RE: !! Keeping the list alive

From: Christopher Spence <cspence_at_FuelSpot.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:51:26 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0037D078.20010830073633@fatcity.com>

Interesting post, but it highly depends on the duh-velupur as well as the db eh.

Some developers are very aware of SQL Tuning, some are not. Some DBA's are great coders, some are not.

But neither are as good as a good developer and a good dba working together.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax: (707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I have to say I resent being called a duhveloper, granted the majority couldn't tune a banjo let alone tune a piece of SQL, but as a techie (and we all are), I find this list invaluable for getting advice on a wide range of topics, not just keeping a DB up and running or tuned...I don't call you guys names, and let's face it you DB-ehs? couldn't write a decent application if your lives depended on it...

(blue touch-paper lit, retire a distance, do not re-approach once lit, and wait for fireworks)

"hit any user to continue"


Kevin Thomas
Technical Analyst
Deregulation Services
Calanais Ltd.
(2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
Tel: 0141 568 2377
Fax: 0141 568 2366
http://www.calanais.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 30 August 2001 15:46
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

no, those posts keep us "underworked" DBAs from killing the duhvelopers who make us do the same thing over and over and over and who never listen when we tell them the correct way to design the tables.

:)

>From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:52 -0800
>
>Just look at the number of OT postings in the last couple of months...
>
>: )
>
>Patrice Boivin
>Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com [SMTP:schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:58 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
>
> You're surprised at those willing to pay?
>
> You have to realize that most DBAs are over-payed and under-worked
>....
> <<ducking>>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:43 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: !! Keeping the list alive
> >
> >
> >
> > This list is apparently a more valuable resource to many of you
than
>I
> > realized.
> >
> > I'm literally bowled over by the generosity. I've received
> > so many emails
> > about
> > this that I really can't personally reply to them all right now.
> >
> >
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