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Re: database upgrade policy?

From: George Schlossnagle <george_at_omniti.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:17:57 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00375AF7.20010823111601@fatcity.com>

Sure.  We seemed to be suffering from bug 1904199 or a variant.  We experienced frequent deadlocks on resources:  
Sat Aug 4 08:03:21 2001Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:ORA-00060: deadlock
detected while waiting for resourceSat Aug 4 08:03:25 2001Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:ORA-00060: deadlock
detected while waiting for resourceSat Aug 4 08:03:29 2001Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:ORA-00060: deadlock
detected while waiting for resourceSat Aug 4 08:03:34 2001Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:ORA-00060: deadlock
detected while waiting for resourceSat Aug 4 08:03:38 2001Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:
followed by 7445s and 600s and then SMON terminating
 
After one of these crashes, we were unable to reopen the database: 
 
Then one day on trying to reopen the database following
Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/udump/report_ora_14226.trc:ORA-00600: internal
error code, arguments: [kteoprpect-1], [2], [1], [], [], [], [], []Sun Aug 12 21:38:45 2001Errors in file
/opt/db/oracle/admin/report/udump/report_ora_14226.trc:ORA-00600: internal
error code, arguments: [kteoprpect-1], [2], [1], [], [], [], [], []Sun Aug 12 21:38:45 2001Error 600 happened during db open, shutting down databaseUSER: terminating instance due to error 600Instance terminated by USER, pid = 14226ORA-1092 signalled during: alter database open...
Our support analysts saud that a fix was in progress and that there was no known way to recover, even an ALTER DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS.  A choice tidbit from the bug report:  
"This could be quite serious for customers as there is no simple way out of this scenario."
Buyer beware.

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  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08
  PM
  Subject: Re: database upgrade
  policy?   

  George, are you willing to expand on what it was, for the rest of   us?
   
  joe
  >>> <A
  href="mailto:george_at_omniti.com">george_at_omniti.com 08/23/01 02:52PM   >>>We just had a total database lost under 9i.  Known bug,   no workaround,better-luck-next-time type situation.  Luckily for us   we were testing it ona non-critical database, but that puts me off it for   a while.George----- Original Message -----To: "Multiple   recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Sent: Thursday,   August 23, 2001 1:27 PMGood for you, David.  We are moving in   that direction, too.  I convincepeople by saying 9i is really   8.2.Paul BaumgartelMortgageSight Holdings,   LLCpbaumgartel_at_mortgagesight.com-----Original   Message-----Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:41 PMTo: Multiple   recipients of list ORACLE-LOkay, I know some of you are going to   call me crazy but here goes...**We're now using 9i in   Production**There, I admit it.  But I have to ask you this- do   you think 9i will be morebuggy than the 8.1.6 that we were running that   was causing core dumps,referential integrity violations, etc.?  I'm   betting that 9i will be atleast a little bit better than that.    Performance should be better too.I'll report back any gotchas (there   are bound to be some!).david-----Original   Message-----Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:46 AMTo: Multiple   recipients of list
  ORACLE-LPaul,        No it's
  more like, "Hey, I heard there is a new version of thedatabaseout, do   we have it yet?  Why not?  Can we have it?  Yeah let's do it,   thatwould be cool.  Oh and by the way I installed a beta service pack   on mymachine, that's ok right?"...crap like   that:)KK-----Original Message-----Sent: Wednesday, August 22,   2001 6:56 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list   ORACLE-LKevin,What do you mean?(running 8.1.7.2.1 on   the destructo box, 8.1.7.1.5 on the development box,W2K   Pro)Paul-------- Original Message --------Date: Wed,   22 Aug 2001 14:06:39 -0800Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.comOrganization:   Fat City Network Services, San Diego, CaliforniaTo: Multiple recipients of   list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>I have people here who just   want to upgrade for the sake
  ofupgrading...rriiiiggghhhhtttt..ok.:)KK-----Original   Message-----Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:01 PMTo: Multiple   recipients of list ORACLE-LWell, we wanted to upgrade from 8.0.4   to 8.1.6 last year because it hadbeendesupported.  We got most of   the machines upgraded except for the mainproduction machine.  I   wanted to upgrade that last September.  I havefinally gotten   permission to tentatively schedule the for next month(oneyear later),   just in time for the 8.1.6 desupport notice.  Sigh.-----Original   Message-----Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:36 PMTo: Multiple   recipients of list ORACLE-LLisa,You need some work to   do....Certifiable Gimp Monkey?? Stub you toe while swinging on the   trapeze?ROR mô¿ôm>>> lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com 08/22/01   12:45PM >>>Don't upgrade unless there is a very good   reason.All of these are candidates1.  current oracle   version is unstable2.  specific bug addressed by an upgrade/patch, as   identified by support3.  need to utilize new feature4.    desupport date coming up.If it works, don't fix it!Don't do it   just for fun.  Because it can turn into HELL.Lisa   KoivuCertifiable Gimp Monkey (and DBA)Ft. Lauderdale, FL,   USA> -----Original Message-----> From: Mark Marsden   [SMTP:mark.marsden_at_hyde-housing.co.uk]> Sent: Wednesday, August 22,   2001 11:45> To:   Multiple recipients of list   ORACLE-L> Subject:      database upgrade   policy?>> Hi Listers>> I'm on 8.1.6.0.0 and   wondering about upgrading to 8.1.6.3.1(?)> as I get the occasional   ORA-600/ORA-7445.>> Do you upgrade to the latest subversion as a   matter of policy> (and not test very much) to prevent possible   errors> or only upgrade if you have problems?>> Do you   upgrade to major versions (7 to 8.0 to 8.1) for increased>   functionality, cos Oracle are desupporting (the main reason we   upgrade)> or to improve the CV ;-)  with the possible downside of   instability.>> Mark.>>>

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