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RE: but will it run windows?

From: Christopher Spence <cspence_at_FuelSpot.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 07:25:10 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00370C89.20010820065603@fatcity.com>

Can do a blade and add 2Gb of ram for about $1700 with two 30Gb Ultra66 drives and be faster than that ultra 10 in all respects except for video.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax: (707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:41 AM
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Solaris Ultra 10 440Mhz UltraSPARC III with DDS3 drive, CDROM, Floppy drive, 256Mb memory, 17" monitor ect... cost me about US$5000 + Preinstalled Solaris 2.7

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Kevin
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2001 4:10 PM
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I run redhat linux 7 on the same machine and I know which one I prefer and it ain't Windows. The only problems I have had with linux is me! Being new to the whole unix/linux setup, adminny type role, I've had to take it slowly and try to learn about everything from setting up printers to securing my PC against unwanted attention...(something I've still not got the hang of yet!). I still use windows as my main OS but it still crashes each time I use it...the latest thing now is that when I try to do a shutdown from the menu, it won't do it....I know MS have a patch for this but it's just the latest in a long line of annoyances that I have yet to experience with Redhat...

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Sent: 17 August 2001 17:16
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If you only have 128Mb, 256Mb you think you would be considering unix?

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax: (707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:27 AM
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<kicks away soap box>

Windows is possibly stable if you manage to have 1Gb of RAM...what about the mere mortals among you that only have 128 or 256... I'm constanly having to reboot my machine as it gives the ol' two finger salute or BSOD!

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Sent: 17 August 2001 15:51
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<steps on the soap box>

And that is why 30 million people run windows.

Yup, windows is completely useless. Get rid of it. It crashes every 1 second.

I am no microsoft fan, but I have my laptop which I reboot once/3 months. I close it, which puts it in standby and I take it home, it automatically awks my wireless network and on the internet when I walk in the door, go to work and it is back on our lan. Got a win2k machine at home running, oracle, as well as many other things, which I use to play games as well. I haven't rebooted it in 2 months, that was because I had to downgrade ie6 beta back to 5.5

Again, I would love to see anyone touch the performance of my $3,500 computer with ANY unix box. After you spent about $60,000+ let me know how it works.

Config: (Raid 0 4x18Gb LVD Cheetah, 128Mb writeback, 2x1.5GHz amd, 1Gb ram, gforce 3).

I hate windows and all it stands for, but I can't stand when people say it crashes all the time and completely useless.

Ebay is bigger than most people's database on this list, guess what, they use micrsoft for everything now. Nothing on their page takes more than 1 second response time. Hmm, wonder how they manage to keep no down time with it crashing every 1 second.

This window crashes all the time and is completely useless routine does get a little tiresome. Yes, it does not scale as well as unix, and harder to script and do other things, and is AS stable, but it is pretty solid granted you have the right drivers and a competent admin. Yeah, windows takes more resources, but when you can buy 512Mb for $50 for intel, that point is moot. On unix that would cost you $500 - $2000.

Most of the crashes related to windows have NOTHING to do with windows, it is usually add-on software or drivers. How can microsoft control that? You want all software and drivers to go through microsoft? That would be a hoot.

Yeah, I would rather be running Solaris or Linux on my laptop and on my machine at home, but neither one would it be suitable. So I run Win2000, and frankly I have very few problems. Then again, I am not using a 386SX16 trying to load Office Xp and Windows 2000 Advanced Server.

<gets off the soap box>

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax: (707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:16 AM
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Obviously not, it would take a single computer that powerful just to make Windows run in a meaningful way.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Ray Stell <stellr_at_stell.cns.vt.edu>
Date:       8/17/2001 5:15 AM


InformationWeek_at_update.informationweek.com:

Scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., held a coming-out party this week, but it wasn't for a debutante--it was to dedicate the world's fastest computer, a silicon belle named ASCI White. And this young lady knows how to cook. It works at speeds of 12.3 teraflops, or trillion floating operations per second--faster than the combined speed of the next three most powerful machines on earth.

The $110 million IBM supercomputer consists of 8,192 off-the-shelf IBM Power-3-II processors. It's got four terabytes of RAM and disk capacity of more than 160 terabytes, and it fills a computer room longer than two basketball courts. There's 49.3 miles of cable connecting the nodes of the machine, and it requires enough power to cool 765 homes.



Ray Stell stellr_at_vt.edu (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC 28^D
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