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RE: OT - Vaccines

From: Mohan, Ross <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:12:47 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0036DF4A.20010816133246@fatcity.com>

yikes.....the immune system is fabulously complex....second in complexity only to the brain itself...and it is still very very much in development at early ages...this is why kids -- all kids -- get more colds, etc than us older folks...the system is literally "learning" for the first few years or more.

Pounding this system with "new" vaccines...before it is developed, or fully able
to defend itself ( vaccines ARE basically hobbled diseases, folks ) is really
scary to me.

Also, remember...you and I may get chicken pox ( i did, and mumps...) but we get it by host to host contact...NOT by *intravenous injection* directly into the bloodstream where orders of magnitude more of disease vectors are introduced into the body than if they had to pass through the skin or mucosal linings....

just a thought.....

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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:45 PM
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Give the kid some baby motrin or baby tylenol prior to the shot. Works wonders. I've got two who just got a round of vaccinations this week.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX

Kathy Duret wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link. As a new parent of a 4 month old, I am always
looking for things to read about newborns.
>
> Some Health centers (Long Beach, CA) are now requiring children to have TB
shots before they can be entered into day care. My pediatrician refuses (thankfully) to do it before 6 months even if they have been exposed to the virus because of the potential side effects.
>
> It is really hard to see my 4 month old get three shots (they won't split
them up I asked) at one time. His little legs are so bruised afterwards. It takes him a week to get back to normal. But often the benefits outweigh the risks. Just be aware of the side effects and watch them like a hawk. I get up several times a night for several days after the shots to check my babies color, breathing and temperature. Better neurotic than sorry.
>
> My husband and I both go on vaccination day, so one can comfort the baby
on the way home while the other drives. I read somewhere that a doctor actually said they don't feel that much pain. He should have seen my babies legs and heard him scream.
>
> This is probably one of the worst things about being a parent.
>
> kathy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:33 PM
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>
> As having a few chicken pox scars (luckily in areas that are not seen) I
understand this some.
>
> The vaccine also prevents Shingles later in life. Shingles normally
happens in older people where your immune system is stressed/suppressed. It is quite painful. Even though I am not very old, I have experienced Shingles and it ain't fun.
>
> Both Shingles and Chicken Pox are forms of the Herpes Virus. Cannot
remember which simplex, but not symplex 10 I'm sure. And not the same symplex as your STD type Herpes.
>
> And if you live in Virginia, it's state law that children are immunized
against Chicken Pox. Before age 3 I believe.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:14 PM
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>
> There is a whole new class of vaccines the drug companies are pushing
> that are supposed to prevent generally non-life-threatening illnesses
> like Chicken Pox. Merck's Chicken Pox vaccine ad is particularly
> heinous, as it promotes the vaccine as preventing cosmetic blemishes
> that result from Chicken Pox.
>
> Another in a long line of medicines for healthy people with unknown
long-term effects.
>
> If you are interested in Vaccine safety and dangers, there is an
> organization devoted to the subject:
>
> National Vaccine Information Center
> http://www.909shot.com
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