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RE: OT -- training

From: Stephen Andert <StephenAndert_at_firsthealth.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:22:30 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0036939F.20010813141218@fatcity.com>

Christopher,

On that same thought, I read the best response to a company who won't train their people because "then they'll leave".

Which would you rather have happen? Train people and have them leave or not train them and have them stay? I know where I'd rather work.

Stephen Andert

>>> cspence_at_FuelSpot.com 08/13 12:53 PM >>> Very common what you explained.

I think businesses are afraid to do training as they think you will become more marketable and opt to leave.
If they are afraid of that, they should fix the problems or give more money to make it so you would not want to leave. If they themselves think your going to leave because of training, they must already know it sucks and they should fix it.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
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Patrice,
 There is "resistance" to any training that I feel is necessary to further my knowledge and/or enhance my understanding of the Oracle processes. Even though I have money in the budget for such items I have to submit a business case defining the gains to the company and after completing the course with a passing grade the company will reimburse me the expenses for the course only. I also have to sign a waver that I will pay the company back the full cost of the course if I leave their employment before 365 days. Needless to say I pay for everything myself and hope to write it off on taxes if they ever get the bill signed into law. ROR mª¿ªm

>>> BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca 08/13/01 11:46AM >>> Just out of curiosity, how many days / weeks of real training did your employer provide you with in the last couple of years?

"real" is in quotes, I don't mean the little 1 - 3 day seminars given by CareerTrack and other "training" companies, or management-related stuff like little MBA-flavoured certificates from universities.

Oh, and did the amount of training you received match what you were told during your job interview?

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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