From lhoska@calibresys.com Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:56:08 -0700 From: lhoska@calibresys.com Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:56:08 -0700 Subject: RE: OT -- training Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain knock, knock... :-)     p.s. I always wondered if you can put blame on your tax adviser in case of trouble.  I suspect, they won't buy it... [Lyuda Hoska]  -----Original Message-----From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) [mailto:MATT.ADAMS@APPL.GE.COM]Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:01 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT -- training Either to don't need to incorporate, or my tax accountant lied to me,  I don't know which, but I have written off training and IOUG-A trips (that were paid for 100% by me) while I was an employee of a consulting firm.   (Is that the IRS I hear knocking?)   ---- Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams@appl.ge.com Doing linear scans over an associative array is like   trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi.                  - Larry Wall (creator of Perl)  
-----Original Message-----From: JOE TESTA [mailto:JTESTA@longaberger.com]Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:42 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: OT -- training You can't write off training.  you need to get incorporated.  I'm a business entity and if/when the company i work for won't pay for training, you can bet it will get written off on my taxes, that includes all of the oracle books, OCP exams, you name it, it gets deducted as a legitimate company expense.    2 years ago the company i was working for didnt want to send me to openworld(and I knew i'd be leaving in less than 2months anyways), so i ate the cost and wrote the entire trip off.   joe       >>> RROGERS@galottery.org 08/13/01 02:41PM >>>Patrice,There is "resistance" to any training that I feel is necessary to further my knowledge and/or enhance my understanding of the Oracle processes. Even though I have money in the budget for such items I have to submit a business case defining the gains to the company and after completing the course with a passing grade the company will reimburse me the expenses for the course only. I also have to sign a waver that I will pay the company back the full cost of the course if I leave their employment before 365 days. Needless to say I pay for everything myself and hope to write it off on taxes if they ever get the bill signed into law.ROR mª¿ªm >>> BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca 08/13/01 11:46AM >>>Just out of curiosity, how many days / weeks of real training did youremployer provide you with in the last couple of years?"real" is in quotes, I don't mean the little 1 - 3 day seminars given byCareerTrack and other "training" companies, or management-related stuff likelittle MBA-flavoured certificates from universities.Oh, and did the amount of training you received match what you were toldduring your job interview?Regards,Patrice BoivinSystems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmesTechnology Services        | Services technologiquesInformatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO      | Région des Maritimes, MPOE-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca> --Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com --Author: Boivin, Patrice J  INET: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists--------------------------------------------------------------------To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com--Author: Ron Rogers  INET: RROGERS@galottery.orgFat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists--------------------------------------------------------------------To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).