From carmichr@hotmail.com Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:55:02 -0700 From: "Rachel Carmichael" Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:55:02 -0700 Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Are they still there? anyone up for a field trip? :) >From: April Wells >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:22:02 -0800 > >Canteberry Acres farm > >Nutt Road > >Grove City Pennsylvania > >They were the farm next door when I was growing up. Charles Hamilton >owner/operator... It was heavenly. I worked for him for 10 years clipping >blossoms & picking berries. It was then that I learned why you run your >irrigation systems when there is frost in the early spring... > >=) > >-----Original Message----- >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:02 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >While you're at it, April, could you tell me where I could get about 80 >pounds of those strawberries? The frozen ones I've been using to make wine >are not quite what I have hoped they'd be. > >David > >-----Original Message----- >Carmichael >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:16 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >April, > >Okay, now tell me WHERE I can get those? The ones from the greenmarket are >already insanely wonderful, I'm not sure I could stand anything more >intense >:) > >Rachel > > > >From: April Wells > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:37:19 -0800 > > > >Rachel, > > > >You need to try strawberries, warm from the sun, wet from the irrigation > >system, with the light dusty dirt still crunching on them. > > > >April > > > >-----Original Message----- > >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:17 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >Ian, > > > >You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for how you >seem > >to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just living with > >that > > > >as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a child must be > >infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who > >raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, "in case he got > >hurt". > > > >You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of > >non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I tend to > >frequent > > > >the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy in stores. > >Even > > > >then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I have >converted > >one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries again, he > >tried > > > >some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced. > > > >Rachel > > > > > > >From: "MacGregor, Ian A." > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest > > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800 > > > > > >So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the life >expectancy > > >of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild > > >blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter than the > >store > > >bought ones. > > > > > >Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an article >store > > >bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose of fruit is > >to > > >be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system intact to be > > >planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the more > >animals > > >are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny. > > > > > >As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with commercial > > >produce. Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported > > >unbruised. It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree. > > > > > > > > >My daughter is autistic. We have her on a cassein and gluten free >diet. > > >It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has increased >and > > >her perserveration has dropped. My wife swears it has; I lean more > >towards > > > > >non-casual coincidence, but I don't want to give her bread pudding in > >case > > > > >I'm wrong. You won't believe how many things have gluten and cassein. > > >Gluten is not naturally found in corn, but it's in corn flakes. Most >soy > > >cheeses have cassein in them so they melt like dairy cheeses. It is > >very > > >difficult to keep on such a diet, taking all grains out of the diet > >would > > > > >be harder still. > > > > > >Autism is a multi-genetic disorder; i.e, more than one gene is >involved. > > >Latest evidence is that the genes express themselves about the first > >month > > > > >of pregnancy. In the future it will be detectable via amniocentesis, > >much > > >like trisomy 13 is today. For a parent it becomes noticeable >somewhere > > >between 15 months and two years. > > > > > >So what does this have to do with cassein and gluten. There are > > >double-blind studies which indicate some children do better on such a > > >diet. > > > > > > > > >I like to think the experience has made me a better person. Before, >when > >a > > > > >developmentally-disabled child walked into a room I'd act like the kid > >was > > >contagious. > > > > > > > > >Ian MacGregor > > >Stanford Linear Accelerator Center > > >ian@slac.stanford.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:12 PM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > >http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:36 PM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > >Blah, I did not work my way to the top of the food chain to be a > > >vegatarian. > > > > > >"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy > >if > > >both are frozen." > > > > > >Christopher R. 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