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RE: Evaluation questions

From: Hillman, Alex <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 10:10:27 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0035C413.20010801101631@fatcity.com>

If you had SQL trace available - you would be able to find SQL for the session. One time on this list I heard mention about x$trace - like it has all data of the event 10046 trace only not in the trace file but in memory. Anumbody has some infp about it?

Alex Hillman

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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Chaim,

That could work. Logminer wasn't around when I first had this problem, and I

haven't spent time working with it.

>From what I know from listening to Joe present on it though, it would be a
more complicated process than I want. I'd have to be sure that the dictionary map was always up to date, and I would have to go back and look through all the archived logs as well as the online ones, in case the statement had been archived off. It also sounds like it would be intensely manual.

Joe -- any thoughts on this?

I want something that runs FAST, so I can clear locks quickly. And then go on to the fun stuff of killing duhvelopers.

Rachel (today it is hot and humid here, and today the AC in the office doesn't work.... killing duhvelopers is looking like more and more fun)

>From: Chaim.Katz_at_Completions.Bombardier.com
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Evaluation questions
>Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:51:19 -0800
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>"Rachel Carmichael" <carmichr_at_hotmail.com> on 07/31/2001 11:48:02 AM
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>Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
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>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>cc: (bcc: Chaim Katz/Completions/Bombardier)
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>Rachel,
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>I don't know how to retreive the locking sql either, but reading this
>discussion
>it occurred to me that 1) in v$session (of the blocked session) we have
>the
>file#,block#,row# that is being waited on. Maybe with logminer (or
>something
>like it) we could find the most recent SQL that affected this block/row?
>
>Chaim
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>Gary,
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>I wish it did. I worked with Q Diagnostics for quite a while, and worked
>directly with the developer (although calling John Beresniewicz a developer
>is an understatement, he's brilliant!) on answering that problem.
>
>Neither Q nor anything from Platinum (does that tell you how long ago it
>was?) was able to find the locking sql with any precision. The answer I got
>back from both of them was "if you figure out how to do it, PLEASE let us
>know"
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>Having said that, Q Diagnostics was indeed bliss... I fixed locks before
>users complained, was able to model and monitor bad SQL and fix it and had
>lots of good info directly on the desktop.
>
>Rachel
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> >From: "Gary Weber" <gweber_at_charlesjones.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: Evaluation questions
> >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:11:36 -0800
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> >Rachel,
> >
> >I believe your second wish from below (locking SQL) has been granted by
> >former Savant product called Q Diagnostic Center, currently owned by
> >Precise. Drill down to locks, including user and SQL info - its a bliss.
> >
> >Gary Weber
> >Senior DBA
> >Charles Jones, LLC
> >609-530-1144, ext 5529
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Carmichael
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:56 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >one I want is "can the package tell me when a datafile extends"
> >
> >also, I want (and have NEVER found) a package that can tell me the
>locking
> >SQL, when the locker has gone on and done other SQL after the lock.
> >
> >ex.
> >
> >user1 does:
> > select * from table for update where <some where clause>
> > update table
> > insert into second table
> >and does not commit
> >
> >user2 comes in and tries to update the first table, one of the rows that
> >meets user1's where clause
> >
> >I can tell that user1 is blocking user2 but not the SQL that is doing the
> >blocking. That's useful in beating duhvelopers about the head in order to
> >get the code fixed.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "O'Neill, Sean" <Sean.ONeill_at_organon.ie>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: Evaluation questions
> > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 02:25:49 -0800
> > >
> > >I'm still slogging away at selection process of DB monitor tool. I'm
>now
> > >at
> > >stage where I'm compiling a list of specific tasks I'd like to take the
> > >contenders through and score them on same.
> > >E.G.
> > >Can package alert if Oracle DB goes down?
> > >Can package alert if Control File extends?
> > >
> > >I'd appreciate your feedback on what you think the monitor package
>should
> > >be
> > >able to do, ya know those things you want to know about before anyone
> >else
> > >does!. I'm particularly fishing for events that might be a bit more
> > >obscure
> > >yet still useful to monitor.
> > >
> > >
> > >Sean :)
> > >
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