From carmichr@hotmail.com Wed, 01 Aug 2001 03:15:53 -0700 From: "Rachel Carmichael" Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 03:15:53 -0700 Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain John, Greenmarket=Farmer's market. We have several all over the city, I love the neighborhood we moved our offices to not just because it is a fun, funky area to explore but because the best of the markets is within walking distance and is there M, W, F and Sat. I haven't gone and hand-picked fruits/veggies, although we do have pick your own places out East on the Island. I have gone to the farms on occasion and bought fresh from them. I remember one year coming to IOUW and going to the market down in the Embarcadero -- and being AMAZED that there were that many kinds of tomatos! Rachel >From: John Kanagaraj >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:35:21 -0800 > >Rachel, > >Do you have the 'Farmer's markets' in NY like we have here in CA? (where >farmers freight and sell their farm-grown veggies and fruits in a specially >agreed upon place/schedule) Have *entirely* stopped buying veggies/fruits >from the grocery store since the farmer's markets opened this Spring. Will >miss them in Fall/Winter though.... I did go down to a farm and hand-picked >berries in NJ when we were there. Is it worth the drive down the turnpike? > >John Kanagaraj > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:17 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest > > > > > >Ian, > > > >You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for > >how you seem > >to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just > >living with that > >as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a > >child must be > >infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who > >raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, "in > >case he got > >hurt". > > > >You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of > >non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I > >tend to frequent > >the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy > >in stores. Even > >then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I > >have converted > >one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries > >again, he tried > >some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced. > > > >Rachel > > > > > >>From: "MacGregor, Ian A." > >>Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >>Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest > >>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800 > >> > >>So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the > >life expectancy > >>of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild > >>blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter > >than the store > >>bought ones. > >> > >>Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an > >article store > >>bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose > >of fruit is to > >>be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system > >intact to be > >>planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the > >more animals > >>are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny. > >> > >>As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with > >commercial > >>produce. Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported > >>unbruised. It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree. > >> > >> > >>My daughter is autistic. We have her on a cassein and gluten > >free diet. > >>It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has > >increased and > >>her perserveration has dropped. My wife swears it has; I > >lean more towards > >>non-casual coincidence, but I don't want to give her bread > >pudding in case > >>I'm wrong. You won't believe how many things have gluten and > >cassein. > >>Gluten is not naturally found in corn, but it's in corn > >flakes. Most soy > >>cheeses have cassein in them so they melt like dairy > >cheeses. It is very > >>difficult to keep on such a diet, taking all grains out of > >the diet would > >>be harder still. > >> > >>Autism is a multi-genetic disorder; i.e, more than one gene > >is involved. > >>Latest evidence is that the genes express themselves about > >the first month > >>of pregnancy. In the future it will be detectable via > >amniocentesis, much > >>like trisomy 13 is today. For a parent it becomes > >noticeable somewhere > >>between 15 months and two years. > >> > >>So what does this have to do with cassein and gluten. There are > >>double-blind studies which indicate some children do better > >on such a > >>diet. > >> > >> > >>I like to think the experience has made me a better person. > >Before, when a > >>developmentally-disabled child walked into a room I'd act > >like the kid was > >>contagious. > >> > >> > >>Ian MacGregor > >>Stanford Linear Accelerator Center > >>ian@slac.stanford.edu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:12 PM > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >> > >> > >>http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:36 PM > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >> > >> > >>Blah, I did not work my way to the top of the food chain to be a > >>vegatarian. > >> > >>"Walking on water and developing software from a > >specification are easy if > >>both are frozen." > >> > >>Christopher R. 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