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Re: Oracle Apps customization help working with consultants

From: Ron Thomas <rthomas_at_hypercom.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:08:44 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0034E032.20010718160022@fatcity.com>

The attribute1 - 10 columns are standard Oracle Applications infrastructure. They are used to hold
context sensitive information about the record. I also would worry about the use of serrogate keys
(sequences) as a primary key. This is standard fare in most ER designs.

What I would be concerned about is there lack of trying to keep you involved in the project as it is
you who will have to support it in the future. Be kind, understanding, but very demanding about
this one put.

BTW, what shop is doing the implementation?

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
rthomas_at_hypercom.com
"I'm too sexy for my code." - Awk Sed Fred

                                                                                       
                        
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First some background

We are running on Unix 8.1.6 with 11i Apps. I know very little about Oracle Apps and I am the first
DBA hired in house who has walked into several projects mid streams that consultants are working on
and they continue to exclude me from design meeting and I get little or no information about the
project.

A consulting group is customizing 11i Apps. Part of this involves an EDI application that will take
in files load them into staging tables that then will be loaded into the appropriate 11i App table.
There are various Oracle and Crystal Reports that will be extracting information from these tables
as well. Why use both... go figure... they are using Crystal for some reports and Oracle Reports
for others. Just like some of the screens are being done in Forms and some done in ASP. These custom EDI app tables have 10 attribute columns defined as varchar2(100) in the middle of the
table. These are extra columns to that may be used in the future for what ever reason. I have
asked these be removed and real column names and data types be added as needed. They refuse saying
they will have to redesign the forms they have created to use with these tables. Isn't is
reasonable that the Forms should also reflect real column names not Attribute 1...10? Isn't it
better to add columns to tables as I need them with an appropriate name and data type?  At the very
least I asked that they put these columns at the end of the table. They have agreed to this.

They are also using a lot of sequences for Primary Keys instead of using columns from the table that
would make an intelligent primary key and would be unique.

They also have many columns as NUMBER that could be defined as NUMBER(3) or NUMBER(4).  Is there any
pros or cons to using NUMBER without defining a data length? That is besides the obvious that
NUMBER you don't have to worry about losing precision data precision.

Also they use a lot of char(1) in defining what they think will only be one character fields. I was
under the impression that it was better to use varchar2(1)? Any comments... This is probably a
trivial issue but I would like to know people's opinions.

I am just a bit brain dead from arguing with them anyway about using a consistence naming
convention, including me on the database design, etc. Even with renaming a column I get "We are on
a tight schedule and this would put us behind". Or this is how Oracle Apps works. My point is
that Oracle Apps as a generic product and this EDI application shouldn't be made generic but
specific to our company needs. That is not putting in this Attribute fields into all the EDI
tables, using intelligent keys not sequence numbers, defining the data length of the NUMBER Fields.

I am really worried about performance since I will have to maintain this in January after they are
long gone.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Any good books to get me quickly up to speed on how
to tune Oracle Apps?

Thanks very much.....

Kathy

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