From Bruce.Reardon@comalco.riotinto.com.au Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:49:49 -0700 From: "Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)" Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:49:49 -0700 Subject: RE: Sizing a new server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Lisa, I also have good feelings for VMS so don't see the problem with an Alpha. As for the disk farms, the RAID 7000 gave very good performance on VMS so 2 of the es10K should be excellent. You and your company are of course aware that Compaq is planning to stop Alpha chip development in 2-3 years and will port Tru64, VMS and NonStop Kernel OS to Itanium processor family. (if not see http://www.compaq.com/newsroom/pr/2001/pr2001062501.html and http://www.compaq.com/hps/ipf-enterprise/ceo_letter.html as starting points). Regards, Bruce Reardon -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 2:11 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Lisa, That doesn't sound too bad, the 8400 is a solid piece of kit. 64-bit, up to 14 CPUs and 28G of memory. They have seriously good I/O bandwidth. Needs a three-phase power supply and weighs, literally, half a tonne. And best of all, you can run VMS on them! g -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Bruce, It's going to be Unix, tru64. Unfortunately I will be stuck with some old hardware to start with - an Alpha, 8400, I believe maxes out at 8 cpu's, along with two old disk farms (compaq esa10k). I'm slapping together a bunch of old pieces of hardware, upgrading where needed, obtaining software licensing where needed, compaq hardware/software support, and with some duct tape, political brown-nosing done by others and a few users screaming for their data, I'll hopefully end up with some sort of reporting tool hitting this. (BizObj or Cogno$). Man Cognos is expensive. I wish I could choose AIX here. It's not an option. See doesn't this sound like a director's job?? Say it again: I LOVE MY JOB Lisa -----Original Message----- [SMTP:Bruce.Reardon@comalco.riotinto.com.au] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lisa, Some may laugh at the question but what OS - NT, Unix, VMS or ? Regards, Bruce Reardon -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 4:36 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanks Kimberly, I wish it was that way. I have to justify my request with hard numbers or they are going to laugh at me when I say, "Because that's what I want". :) They don't yet know how I'd react to that, it would be a knee-jerk type of reaction involving creative expletives... not pretty. Good for you. At least you have some real hardware and true HA. I wish I did Lisa -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Get the biggest, kick ass server they will let you buy. If your site is anything like mine they just keep asking for more and more databases. So no matter what I have now I know its not enough. I am really happy with the nice new N-class HP cluster I have sitting next door running Service Guard. I am also getting a A-class database cluster for some important but not fab critical databases. Now if I can only get ride of the 5 K-class database servers. Its kind of like when you go from a fast to a slow PC. Drives me crazy. Not that there are issues with performance from the databases. It would only be me, while playing (which of course means working) on the server, that would notice. -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Good morning everyone, Lucky me, I get to choose the size of the server this company should consider purchasing. I have been poking around on the net for any guidelines - I can make guesses based upon my gut feel and how strapped the current unix server is, but I want to be able to back this up with hard numbers. This is for a dw application. Can anyone point me to a website, book, or anything in particular that can help me justify sizing a machine? It's so fun working for a company that doesn't have a sysadmin on staff... Thanks Lisa Koivu Oracle Data Bored Administrator Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 954-935-4117 -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: Bruce.Reardon@comalco.riotinto.com.au Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).