From peter.mclarty@incts.com Tue, 10 Jul 2001 04:28:53 -0700 From: Peter McLarty Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 04:28:53 -0700 Subject: RE: UNIX SA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Andrey If you have some spare PC hardware lying around then consider installing a copy of Linux, purchase it or download it and burn your own distro. Get that installed and running and then get something like Oracle running on it set up and get apache running on it, Mysql and Postgress are others that you might like to play around with. Start learning Perl  compile and set up some tools you want to have a look at. Install VNC on it and then be able to run X sessions on you PC with the VNC client. maybe install the Java SDK and leverage some of that spare time in discovering Java it really has a lot of uses and the skills won't go astray especially as it is tied to Larry's future. Configure SAMBA and use it as a file and print server, you have yourself you own NT server :-) g These are all everyday sorts of task that SA might have to consider and do. Have a look at some security sites start with CERT or your local associate site  and learn the basics of securing a UNIX server If you want any other bright ideas you can contact me offline.   HTH Peter 10/07/2001, you wrote: Hi,   Do you have any Unix SA experience already? If not, maybe a general Unix SA book would be more useful than specializing in Solaris straight away, O'Reilly publish "Unix for Oracle DBAs Pocket Reference" and "Essential System Administration". I've only actually read the latter, it is a good general overview and reference.   The reason I say this, is because all Unixes are basically similar when it comes to configuration, but vendors like to put their own tools on too, for example AIX has SMIT, Sun have their admintool, etc. Best to learn the underlying structure so you'll be at home on any system. Then learn the platform specific stuff. Unix is "quirky" for example in /etc/system, the comment character is * in /etc/sendmail.cf the comment character is # in /etc/named.boot the comment character is ; in source code, the comment is /* */ (like in PL/SQL). If you mark your comments in the wrong way in the wrong file, you might end up with a system that cannot even boot! (Offtopic: if you have been on this list for a while, you will know that I hate Unix, but know a lot about it. The two go together).   HTH,   g   -----Original Message----- From: Andrey Bronfin [mailto:Andreyb@MaxBill.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:23 AM To: Guy Hammond Subject: RE: UNIX SA Guy , thanks a lot ! Just another question : what do U recommend to START with , for a beginner , like me . Thanks in advance. -----Original Message----- From: Guy Hammond [mailto:guy.hammond@avt.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: UNIX SA The Solaris FAQ:   http://www.science.uva.nl/pub/solaris/solaris2.html   Sun's own documentation, all available online for free (in PDF too):   http://docs.sun.com/   The "Ferrari book" is excellent, even tho' that's actually a Porsche on the cover:   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130952494/qid=994751878/sr=1-3/ref=sc_b_3/103-7758889-6011002   And for the truly hard of core, Solaris Internals:   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130224960/ref=lm_lb_3/103-7758889-6011002   HTH,   g   -----Original Message----- From: Andrey Bronfin [mailto:Andreyb@maxbill.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 4:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT: UNIX SA Dear list ! I'd like to start getting into some beginner level UNIX (Solaris) system administration . I have some knowledge in UNIX  (scripting, basic commands , etc ... - user/programmer/DBA level , not a sys. admin. level). Can U please recommend what to start with ? I prefer free resources on the web over the books i'll have to buy, off course. Thanks a lot for your recommendations. Andrey.