RE: Mark's Wild A** Vid Card (Saga continues)

Just curious Mark, did you do any checking to make sure this card didn't have to have a specific IRQ setting? I know with my new card it had to have IRQ 11 otherwise it wouldn't work. Also, did you deinstall the previous drivers, install the standard VGA driver and then install the new card drivers?

        Not trying to second guess your skills, TRUST ME, but I know what your going through, what a pain in the arse!
KK

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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:31 AM
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Hannibal,

Since you like this thread so much - I thought I would give you an update on the continuing escapade I am having with <---"The Card"--->.

Last night - having exhausted all avenues such as chipset upgrades, BIOS flashes, driver updates etc - I got a friend of mine round with his PC (an AMD Athlon /K2 500mhz, 320M RAM), which has both Win2K and 98 bootable from one hard drive.

You may remember that I *thought* it may have been a refresh rate for my screen as it is only 60hz - well not so!! First thing I did was hook up his screen and BANG out goes the screen!

I then continue to take my OH SO LOVELY ELSA GLADIAC 920 out of my machine, remove his Creative GeoForce 2 from his, and replace it with mine (I was thinking by then that it may have been an O/S problem). Booted his machine in to 98, installed the drivers, reboot, all nice and pretty. Go in to a game, TTAADDDAAAA it works!!! <FUMING> IT WORKS? </FUMING>.. OK I think, if it is an O/S problem, let's see if it works with his Win2K O/S.

Reboot, install the Win2K drivers, go in to a game and TTAADDDAAAA - <DOUBLE FUMING> IT WOORRKKSSS??? </DOUBLE FUMING>

SO - it is something wrong with either my setup or my PC, I even went as far as putting his GeoForce 2 in to my machine, booting, installing the drivers, and the damn screen STILL goes in to standby with a GeoForce2!! This PC isn't even a year old yet..

I then reinstalled my old card (an ELSE ERAZOR III 32 MB) not a bad card in itself, but not has good as my shiny new upgrade :( THE THING WORKS!!

I see no reason for this to happen, and my PC support is running round at the moment in a lame attempt to get any info they can for me..

Time to scrap my PC, and get an AMD 1ghz I think, and make the B******S install it before they ship it :)! and another ! for good luck..

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 05:14
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Mark,

I bow at your feet.

I also got a big kick out of:

"heads will roll.. Not sure who's yet.. But OH BY GOD - HEADS WILL ROLL.."

I like this thread alot....it shows the "system" nature of things, more than the isolated analysis we can all get stuck in.

Robert Pirsig called those "gumption traps", and they can make us wind up cranky, misanthropic NT haters. (He didn't say that last part.)

:)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:27 AM
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I think I came across the route of the problem now.

I have in fact installed all updated drivers from VIA, flashed the BIOS, switched IRQ's for my network card (it was in the adjacent PCI slot to the AGP slot) so there are no IRQ conflicts.

I went on to the ELSA web support page, and discovered that if you want to run a GLADIAC 920 on a Win2K box, in 1024/768 resolution, your monitor needs to have a 120hz refresh rate. My (Shite) monitor (a Belinea 102010) only supports a 60hz refresh rate!! Now I'm not entirely sure about this, and don't have another monitor that supports this to hand to test my theory out - but I would think that if the card tried to overload the monitor with a 120hz refresh rate, when it is set to 60 this would infact cause the monitor to go in to standby to save frying the monitor? Am I right in presuming that?

God I hope so!! This card as Ross pointed out is top of the range! Costing ?350!! If it doesn't work after I try a new monitor (More expense) heads will roll.. Not sure who's yet.. But OH BY GOD - HEADS WILL ROLL :)

Thanks for the pointers any way guys.. I'll certainly keep you updated on the amount of people I blow away online in the Half Life/Counterstrike Modification!! <G> When I get it working..

Mark

-----Original Message-----
McLarty
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:50
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Hi

Try checking out all of your drivers.

A mate of mine recently purchased a new motherboard and Athlon 900, firstly it seemed to run like a dog, after a bit of looking around he found out that it was probably the VIA chipset, so on went the new drivers, seemed to run better but still not happy. Reinstalled OS with the new VIA drivers and ram great, all except for this strange occasional lockup. He found the cause by chance when he was moving house and fired up his system without the modem attached. System was running very well so he hooked up his modem to check some email and shortly later bang system lockup. Got the new USRobotics driver for his system and last I heard he was rockin.

Peter

At 08:55 AM 26/06/2001 -0800, you wrote:
><RANT>
>WHATEVER you do - DON'T GO ADDING ANY NEW FUNKY HARDWARE!!!
>
>I just got a brand new ELSA GLADIAC 920 graphics card - built on the new
>nvidia Geoforce 3 chipset with 64mb on board DDR SDRAM! (I can hear any
>gamers going YUMMMM)!!
>
>So - slip it in to my (not a year old - PIII800 256M RAM Win2K) PC and the
>damn thing wont work - it switches video modes to go in to a game and turns
>the screen in to stand by mode (NOW THERE'S A BLACK SCREEN FOR YA!!)!!
DAMN
>THING!! You then have to physically turn the machine off!! Support in their
>infinite wisdom told me to upgrade my 4in1 drivers for the chipset(VIA),
and
>flash the BIOS(AWARD)! Not a very inviting solution - as a BIOS flash, if
>gone wrong, will fry your BIOS chip, meaning that you'll need a new
>motherboard! They then go on to tell me they won't support this. Call up PC
>support - any they won't support it either!
>
>So there I am raring to get my hands on the ultimate PC gamer experience,
>and decided to do as they recommend - I updated my VIA 4in1, and flashed
the
>BIOS - and guess what - the f*$^&r STILL WONT WORK!!! I installed the
NVIDIA
>driver - nope.. Installed the Win2K SP2 - nope.. try to tweak the settings
>for screen res etc. - nope.. Made sure that there were no conflicts with
>IRQ's etc. - nope..
>
>And at this very moment - IT STILL WON'T WORK!!
>
>DON'T GO THROUGH THE HASSLE!!!
>
></RANT>
>
>Totally off-topic I know as you wouldn't dream of playing games on a
>database server - but I needed to vent a little there - I've spent hours on
>this last night!! And will later I suppose..
>
>Any graphics experts out there? PC support etc.?
>
>Mark (Gonna go and cry now) Leith
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 03:22
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>
>HUMM, Our last unscheduled Unix down was due to the local power utility
>whereas
>the last unscheduled down on NT was due to the "Blue screen of death" (Ok,
>so
>the screen is Black on 2000).
>
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