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RE: OT: Working from home

From: <Chaim.Katz_at_Completions.Bombardier.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:46:02 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0032BD1D.20010615123610@fatcity.com>

You just reminded me - when I was in one of the early grades I was given a punishment and had to write 50 lines ("I will not ... in class"). I was pretty scared, pretty embarrassed, went home used a ruler and drew 50 (more or less) straight lines and handed that in, but I don't remember what happened after that

Chk.

"Mercadante, Thomas F" <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us> on 06/15/2001 02:49:14 PM

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> cc: (bcc: Chaim Katz/Completions/Bombardier)

I remember when I was in 10th grade, and we had an assignment to write a paper that was to be three pages "double spaced".

I didn't know what double spaced meant (and, being a boy, was too stupid to ask - no comments from the smart women out there) that I typed it with double spaces between each word.

Was this a bad thing?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:31 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

so then if you use a REAL SMALL Font(like this msg),

then you can get more word with less pages per book and make more?

Joe

>>> carmichr_at_hotmail.com 06/15/01 11:51AM >>>
well, there are different rules for different things... it's not the number of pages, it's the number of words :)

back in the early days of pulp fiction, writers were paid by the word, not the story... the more words, the more money. Made for very very detailed stories :)

>From: "Toepke, Kevin M" <ktoepke_at_cms.cendant.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: OT: Working from home
>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:05:52 -0800
>
>Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a
>programmer's productivity? Next thing you'll tell me the its not the number
>of pages that makes a book good? :->
>
>(fleeing for my life)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:01 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Nuno, you are preaching to the choir here I think :)
>
>There was a manager in that same shop who measured her programmers
>abilities
>
>by the number of lines of code they wrote in a day. She also said to me
>once
>
>"I don't like to waste time on design"
>
>Truly. And they wondered why people kept quitting on her.
>
>
>
> >From: "Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_nsw.bigpond.net.au>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: Re: OT: Working from home
> >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:53 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > So we all lied a lot. And this was "sitting at our desks"
> > >
> >
> ><rant>
> >That IMHO is the main flaw of all these new management techniques
> >and "metrics" being pushed by methodology reps. They are
> >very good when dealing with coal face workers. They haven't got
> >a chance in hell of accurately representing working patterns when
> >dealing with a technical job. Most of them are extrapolated
> >from factory environments, where the amount of work is easy to
> >measure in terms of units/hour. Since none of them even make
> >an effort at defining what's a unit of work for a DBA or a designer
> >or an "architect" or even an analyst, they fail miserably in
> >properly tracking this type of job.
> >
> >Result? Totally incorrect project metrics and cost extrapolations.
> >Corollary? Make these jobs disappear because of their "inconvenience"
> >in fitting a flawed model. Not fix the model.
> >
> >And they wonder why projects can easily "fail"? They can't even
> >accurately define "failure" nowadays!
> ></rant>
> >
> >Cheers
> >Nuno Souto
> >nsouto_at_nsw.bigpond.net.au
> > http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den>
> >
> >
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