Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O

It seems sarcasm may be beyond you. Check the smileys for emphasis in Alex's mail.

• Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:00 PM

> I disagree wholeheartedly with this statement Alex. How can you make this
> statement without knowing the situation? (You seem to be becoming the
> resident troller in this group! Sorry, but it does appear that way.)
>
> In spite of all evidence and repeated warnings, management often does not
> allow the most reasonable "solution" - preferring instead to play ostrich
> and simply throw hardware at the problem. Then one day even this isn't
> enough or it becomes prohibitively expensive and they want to hold someone
> else responsible for their own bad decisions - and the all too common
> scapegoat hunting expedition begins! That is when I usually forward to
the
> "hunters" the same email that I sent them three years ago (and two years
ago
> and a year ago , and six months ago, ...) analyzing the problem and
> proposing a reasonable solution - with attached proof (e.g. tkprof output
> showing how rewriting a few problematic queries can reduce CPU utilization
> by a factor of 72 and LIO by a factor of 6200! A real life example - that
> stayed like this for over three and a hlf years!).
>
> -Don Granaman
> [certifiable OraSaurus]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:40 PM
>
>
> > Of cource you did not do your job properly. Or are you telling us that
> > damagement did not do their job properly? I have never heard anything
more
> > ridiculous. :-).
> >
> > Alex Hillman
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:50 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Jared wrote:
> >
> > >I just *had* to point this out. Had too many damagers want to solve
> > >everything by buying HW when they have no idea what the problem is.
> > >
> >
> > how about Sun E650, 26 CPUs (yes, I said 26), 9GB RAM
> >
> > made the application fly. Until we hit THE ultimate peak stress day and
> > they died. I had spent the year prior screaming about how the
application
> > needed some serious rewrite or we would die on that day. Database had
been
> > "designed" (if you can call it that) by people who did not know Oracle
and
> > so recreated their flat file system.
> >
> > They told me that the reason we died was because I had not done my job
> > properly.
> >
> > What's wrong with that picture?
> >
> >
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