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I disagree. They claim that for every hours a database is done is $1 million bucks. If that is true then they need to though the money into the system. I need a server that is highly available with failover capability. I do have that for 2 databases. They pay me the big bucks do what is possible with the crap they give me. No amount of money for salary is going to make me give my life away supporting databases or producing miracles. Its bad enough that I am tied to a pager 24x7, 365 days a year..... Trying hard to loss it on the mountains though. Came close a couple of times.
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
but that's why they pay y'all the big bucks...
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:37 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
You think 35:1 is bad! Try 69:(1/2) ( I work half fast )
Sometimes a critical 24x7 database goes down and people don't know for weeks!
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Alan Aschenbrenner [mailto:alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com]
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:14 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: What next ?
||
||
||
|| You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1
|| ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all....
||
|| Alan Aschenbrenner
|| IHS Group
|| alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com <mailto:alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com>
|| (303)-858-6394
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:47 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| Hey, I was just telling someone I was in hell. A database
|| to dba ratio
|| of 11:1, all 24x7 is simply
|| not a good ratio.
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:33 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
||
|| Ross, you are being superceded as the chief goof. Get busy!
||
|| Me, I had to kiss the current dbas' feet, shower them with
|| compliments
|| about their databases, ask them tough questions, show them
|| how to write
|| pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them beer. I also
|| planted a potato
|| in my back yard behind the tree stump after practicing my
|| Wicca rituals,
|| night chants and fire dances. Within one year I was a dba
|| :) and it's
|| been hell ever since.
||
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:56 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
|| Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a good DBA one
|| must
|| go to Mt. Sinai and talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back,
|| then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of
|| data into
|| partitions. Instead of appealing to pharaoh to let his people go, the
|| real
|| DBA uses the phrase "will you, please, lay off that @#!
|| beeper and leave
|| me
|| alone?". DBAs communicate with the developers/users in terms of
|| commandments.
|| Disobeying them can have excruciating consequences for all those who
|| dare to
|| disrespect a DBA. To make, the long story short, being a DBA is a
|| calling
|| and
|| not a job.
|| Sincerely yours,
|| BDBAFH
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:41 AM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
|| >Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to
|| be a DBA or
|| do
|| >you actually want to learn database administration?
|| >
||
|| To a large extent I agree with you about the relative
|| unimportance of paper
|| qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course of
|| study is good
||
|| for, is to make you aware of all the nooks and crannies of
|| your chosen
|| subject. For instance, if you are self-taught, and the subject of
|| replication never comes up, you may never even *know* that it exists.
|| Or,
|| unless you are very self-disciplined, you may never do anything with
|| crash
|| recovery until actually presented with the need (a bad time to be
|| learning
|| it, IMO).
||
|| So if you are going to go the self-study route, have a formal
|| plan of some
|| kind -- whether it's getting hold of the course curriculum
|| for Oracle
|| courses, of just getting some good DBA books and going through them
|| beginning to end.
||
||
|| Dennis Taylor
|| --------------------------------
|| Living with a saint is harder than being one.
||
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