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RE: Re[4]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

From: Hillman, Alex <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:23:28 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0032226F.20010608070607@fatcity.com>

Thanks, finally some useful info.

Alex Hillman

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:15 PM
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Hello Ed (and whoever else is interested),

Computer book deals are usually structured such that the author gets a percentage of net sales. Net sales reflect the wholesale price of the book. A $40 book will wholesale for somewhat less than $20. Let's be generous, and use $20. A 10% royalty rate would then result in the author getting $2/book. Discounts are often greater than 50%, so reality isn't quite as good as I've just described. Some publishers are more willing to discount than others.

If you would like a good walk-through of a contract, I invite you to visit the following URL where you can find a description of the contract we use at O'Reilly. We have, btw, a very short, two-page contract.

http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/ch03.html

We pay the same rate regardless of where, or how, the book is sold. We pay the same rate regardless of how much the book is discounted. We pay the same rate for foreign sales that are not translations. So if you write a book in English, and we sell an English-language copy in Zambia, you get the full rate. We don't hold back anything for returns, and we don't charge indexing fees.

Oh, what else, what else. There's a lawyer I know named Ivan Hoffman who specializes in intellectual property issues. He has some great articles on his website that discuss various issues of interest to writers and publishers. His site's URL is: http://www.ivanhoffman.com/. You might also visit Studio B's web site. They have an article page at: http://studiob.com/content.asp?keyword=ART. I found the one titled "Negotiating your first computer book deal" to be very helpful when I was negotiating my first computer book deal<grin>.

Even though money may not be your #1 reason for writing a book, you shouldn't discount it entirely. I find that the advance check I get when I hit a major milestone tends to renew my enthusiasm for whatever project I'm working on at the time.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick
mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org

Thursday, June 07, 2001, 2:31:30 PM, you wrote: HE> Jonathan,

HE> Everyone has there own reasons for wanting to write a book. For me, the HE> reasons are:

HE> 1. Credibility with peers / clients
HE> 2. Sense of accomplishment
HE> 3. Enjoy sharing information with people
HE> 4. Some extra cash

HE> I would certainly say that the first 3 are TRUELY the reason that I would
HE> consider such a project, but the extra cash is always a plus!! I certainly
HE> am not interested in getting into anyone's personal finances...but could you
HE> give us some indication / range of what an author could expect to receive

HE> from a book deal?  I'm sure it varies depending upon the topic and
HE> salesability...but what's a good range?  How are book deals typically
HE> structured?

HE> Thanks,
HE> Ed Haskins

HE> Oracle DBA
HE> Verizon Wireless
HE> -----Original Message-----
HE> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:26 PM
HE> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


HE> Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 4:53:21 PM, Christopher Spence wrote: CS>> I hope your not doing it to get rich :)

HE> Chris brings up a good point. It's *extremely* difficult to
HE> predict book sales in advance. Editors get surprised all the
HE> time. Books we think will sell well, don't. And sometimes
HE> it's the other way around. It's best to go in with low
HE> expectations, and hopefully you'll come out pleasantly
HE> surprised.

HE> Best regards,

HE> Jonathan Gennick   
HE> mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com * 906.387.1698
HE> http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com *
http://MetalDrums.org

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