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RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

From: Mohan, Ross <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:01:39 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0032111E.20010607133333@fatcity.com>

Alex,

I made nothing from the last book I published.

But, it was alot less complicated in execution than what Rachel had to go through. It's a wonder she's in such a good mood all the time. <G>

Yours in Data,

etc...

|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
|| Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:56 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
||
||
|| every book deal is different -- based on the publisher's
|| belief in the
|| marketability of the author, the number of pages in the
|| book, the selling
|| price of the book, the number of authors and how well they negotiate.
||
|| It's sort of like the request for the definitive answer on
|| how to set your
|| init.ora parameters -- "it depends"
||
|| you negotiate a royalty rate. Someone who is a known author
|| can usually get
|| a higher rate. you negotiate on the "break points" - the
|| number of books
|| that have to be sold before the royalty rate changes
|| (upwards usually)
||
|| you get a different amount based on where the book is sold:
|| a bookstore for
|| full price, an online retailer who discounts it, a book
|| club, domestic sales
|| vs foreign sales.
||
|| Then you have to negotiate with your co-authors on how to
|| split this money
|| up.
||
|| Reading a royalty statement is an art.
||
|| sorry, since I am not an elected official, and I am not
|| asking you for a
|| loan, my personal finances are none of your business.
||
|| And I consider it incredibly rude of you to ask.
||
||
|| >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
|| >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
|| >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
|| >Subject: RE: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
|| >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:41:30 -0800
|| >
|| >Somehow this question and answers reminds me when I asked
|| several years ago
|| >one guy how much his house is worth. He became red and
|| answered something
|| >like roughly don't remember. I told him that his purchase
|| is a public
|| >record
|| >and any real estate agent ( and I have licence but don't
|| use it) can get
|| >this info in a matter of minutes. The same story here -
|| somehow everybody
|| >telling you how minisqule amount they got from writing a
|| book, however
|| >nobody will tell you what are usual deal parameters, what
|| percentages you
|| >get from sales, how it depends on the sales volume etc. You
|| should go
|| >directly to the publisher and find this out. When I would
|| like to ask
|| >somebody what his or her ( no sexism :-)) rate is I ask
|| usually what is the
|| >range this position is paying and usually people do not
|| have problem to
|| >answer such question. Again, it is much better in my
|| opinion to do self
|| >publishing.
|| >
|| >Alex Hillman
|| >
|| >-----Original Message-----
|| >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:32 PM
|| >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| >
|| >
|| >Jonathan,
|| >
|| >Everyone has there own reasons for wanting to write a book.
|| For me, the
|| >reasons are:
|| >
|| >1. Credibility with peers / clients
|| >2. Sense of accomplishment
|| >3. Enjoy sharing information with people
|| >4. Some extra cash
|| >
|| >I would certainly say that the first 3 are TRUELY the
|| reason that I would
|| >consider such a project, but the extra cash is always a
|| plus!! I certainly
|| >am not interested in getting into anyone's personal
|| finances...but could
|| >you
|| >give us some indication / range of what an author could
|| expect to receive
|| >from a book deal? I'm sure it varies depending upon the topic and
|| >salesability...but what's a good range? How are book deals
|| typically
|| >structured?
|| >
|| >Thanks,
|| >Ed Haskins
|| >Oracle DBA
|| >Verizon Wireless
|| >
|| >
|| >-----Original Message-----
|| >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:26 PM
|| >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| >
|| >
|| >Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 4:53:21 PM, Christopher Spence wrote:
|| >CS> I hope your not doing it to get rich :)
|| >
|| >Chris brings up a good point. It's *extremely* difficult to
|| >predict book sales in advance. Editors get surprised all the
|| >time. Books we think will sell well, don't. And sometimes
|| >it's the other way around. It's best to go in with low
|| >expectations, and hopefully you'll come out pleasantly
|| >surprised.
|| >
|| >Best regards,
|| >
|| >Jonathan Gennick
|| >mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com * 906.387.1698
|| >http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com *
|| http://MetalDrums.org
|| >
|| >
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