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RE: What next ?

From: Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:43:07 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00320DAB.20010607114714@fatcity.com>

Hey, I
was just telling someone I was in hell.  A database to dba ratio of 11:1, all 24x7 is simply
not a
good ratio.

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa   [mailto:lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com]Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001   12:33 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:   RE: What next ?
  Ross, you are being superceded as the   chief goof.  Get busy!
  Me, I had to kiss the current dbas'
  feet, shower them with compliments about their databases, ask them tough   questions, show them how to write pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them   beer.  I also planted a potato in my back yard behind the tree stump   after practicing my Wicca rituals, night chants and fire dances.  Within   one year I was a dba :)  and it's been hell ever since.   

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    face=Arial size=1>From:   <FONT face=Arial 
    size=1>Gogala, Mladen [SMTP:MGogala_at_oxhp.com] <FONT face=Arial 
    size=1>Sent:   Thursday, June 

    07, 2001 2:56 PM <FONT face=Arial
    size=1>To:     <FONT face=Arial 
    size=1>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT face=Arial 
    size=1>Subject:        <FONT 
    face=Arial size=1>RE: What next ? 

    Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a     good DBA one must go to Mt. Sinai and     talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back, <FONT face=Arial     size=2>then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of data into     partitions. Instead of appealing to     pharaoh to let his people go, the real <FONT face=Arial     size=2>DBA uses the phrase "will you, please, lay off that @#! beeper and     leave me alone?". DBAs communicate with     the developers/users in terms of <FONT face=Arial     size=2>commandments. Disobeying them can     have excruciating consequences for all those who dare to <FONT     face=Arial size=2>disrespect a DBA. To make, the long story short, being a     DBA is a calling and <FONT
    face=Arial size=2>not a job. Sincerely     yours, BDBAFH
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    face=Arial size=2>Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:41 AM <FONT     face=Arial size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L     At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you want a paper to say you are
    marginally qualified to be a DBA or do <FONT face=Arial     size=2>>you actually want to learn database administration?
>

    To a large extent I agree with you about the     relative unimportance of paper <FONT face=Arial     size=2>qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course of study is     good for, is to make you aware of all the     nooks and crannies of your chosen <FONT face=Arial     size=2>subject. For instance, if you are self-taught, and the subject     of replication never comes up, you may     never even *know* that it exists. Or, <FONT face=Arial     size=2>unless you are very self-disciplined, you may never do anything with     crash recovery until actually presented     with the need (a bad time to be learning <FONT face=Arial     size=2>it, IMO).
    So if you are going to go the self-study route,     have a formal plan of some kind --
    whether it's getting hold of the course curriculum for Oracle     courses, of just getting some good DBA books and     going through them beginning to
    end.
    Dennis Taylor <FONT face=Arial
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    size=2>Living with a saint is harder than being one.

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