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oops -- change number 1 below to "which is Marlene's, which is mine and which is Jim's" although anyone who knows Jim knows exactly which chapter(s) he wrote :)
>From: "Rachel Carmichael" <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:56:14 -0800
>
>The process at Oracle Press for DBA 101 went like this:
>
>1). one of us would write the chapter (we broke the book out by "you write
>this one, I'll write that one" -- if we did it correctly, you can't tell
>which chapter is Marlene's and which is mine)
>
>2). the other would read and make suggestions for changes (we did our own
>developmental editing <G>)
>
>3). corrections would be made and the chapter was sent to OP and the
>technical editor
>
>4). tech editor would return the chapter with comments/changes
>
>5). author of the chapter would incorporate the changes requested by the
>tech editor
>
>6). chapter would be sent to OP for copy-editing (this is the grammatical
>clean up)
>
>7). chapter would come back from the copy editor and changes would be
>accepted or rejected by the chapter author
>
>8). "final" version of the chapter was sent back to OP
>
>9). chapter would (eventually) come back as page proofs (hardcopy pictures
>of what the actual printed page would look like)
>
>10). Page proofs were reviewed (this is blinding work as you are NOT
>reading
>but scanning each line of each page for things as small as lowercase when
>it
>should be caps, missing commas, missing spaces, code listings not lining
>up,
>and so on)
>
>11). marked up page proofs were sent to OP
>
>12). Because our editor at OP knew that I am totally anal about not sending
>out work with errors, I'd get ANOTHER set of page proofs to review (this is
>not a normal process, just mine). Believe it or not, I would sometimes
>still
>find errors.
>
>13). The book is published, by which time I am thoroughly sick of looking
>at it. Except of course, that the first time you see a book you have
>written
>as a REAL BOOK, all the pain is forgotten.
>
>Now, understand that this is not a single thread process. We might be
>writing one chapter, reviewing a different one for each other, checking
>what
>the tech editor or copy editor was doing etc.
>
>And while all that was going on, I was holding down a full-time DBA job
>(which means >40 hours a week), presenting at conferences and trying to
>find
>time to sleep.
>
>
>
>>From: Peter Barnett <pnbarne_at_bcbso.com>
>>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>Subject: Re: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
>>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 08:47:06 -0800
>>
>>In a different life, I wrote several articles for academic journals. It
>>was a pretty brutal experience but I learned how to write a tight
>>sentence.
>>
>>First, the editors returned the manuscripts for grammatical corrections.
>>Once they were satisfied with the grammar and syntax, the article went to
>>a peer review committee.
>>
>>Generally, the peer reviewers were other academics specializing in the
>>topic of the manuscript. They too, were just as rigorous as the
>>grammar police.
>>
>>My boss at the time wrote two books which were published by one of the
>>major academic book publishers. They followed essentially the same
>>process.
>>
>>
>>Pete Barnett
>>Oracle Database Administrator
>>Regence BlueCross BlueShield
>>pnbarne_at_regence.com
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Greg Moore wrote:
>>
>> > Jim, Check the O'Reilly web site. There is an area where they
>>describe
>>how
>> > they work with authors.
>> >
>> > - Greg
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:29 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > > All,
>> > >
>> > > I am very interested in collaborating with others in the writing of
>>an
>> > > Oracle technical book (DBA subject matter). I am interested in how
>>those
>> > of
>> > > you who have done this (ala Rachel), got started or made the right
>> > > connections. I do have a somewhat literary background, so I know I
>>can do
>> > > this.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > > Jim Hawkins
>> > > Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
>> > > MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
>> > > 600 Pearl Drive
>> > > St. Louis, MO 633376
>> > > 9636) 474-7832
>> > > jhawkins_at_memc.com (work)
>> > > jhawkins_at_primary.net (home)
>> > >
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